SCG won't turn on right away

Nan_doh

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Aug 11, 2023
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Las Vegas, NV
We have an Intellicenter with the SCG power supply built-in. The Pentair IC60 died so I bought a Splash IRCF60 and it was working fine until recently. I won't come on for 30 min - 1hr after pump starts. No LEDs flashing at all. There may be some correlation with colder temps and longer delay, not sure. It has occasionally also gone dead mid-day, temporarily then comes on again. I cleaned it, changed the flow switch, no difference. It is wired on the load side, same relay as VST pump. My surge board (521593) green LED D2 is on.

I took a variety of voltage readings and am totally baffled by some of what I found!
The 240Vac going to the transformer is fine and the J8-J9 reading is 30.7Vac, with or without the SCG connected (but not working). Not sure if that's large enough output.
Between JP1 RED-BLK on the surge board: 40.9Vdc (SCG working ok) and 27.1Vdc (SCG disconnected). Seems backwards and it's not a record keeping error.
Just for kicks I measured the AC voltage between RED-BLK: 89.2Vac (SCG working ok) and 58.8Vac (SCG disconnected)! Not mVac.
Also some big AC readings on the DT+/- com lines, which are not used in this knock-off cell.
Now I'm second guessing whether the original Pentair cell is truly dead or if there's something wrong with my surge PCB. Can't recall if the Pentair was dead or just had a red LED on.
The two transformers are very hot to the touch. A failing bridge rectifier could account for some of the symptoms but maybe not all. The bridge's 4 solder pads are discolored, so either re-worked or overheating.
Maybe some of the filter caps have aged in the brutal heat here in southern NV.

I'd like to do something more intelligent than replace a bunch of part$. I'm comfortable replacing the bridge if the pads can hold up.

Any insight is much appreciated, thanks!
 
Welcome to TFP.

I suspect installing an genuine IntelliChlor cell will solve your problems.

The Splash IRCF60 is driving the voltage in strange ways and I think you will burn out the transformer continuing to use it.

All the electronics that manage the cell and voltage are in an IntelliChlor cell or in your case from Splash.
 
Hi ajw22. I may have to take your suggestion but I'd like to avoid forking out another $1600 for an IC60 (on sale now at Leslie).
My readings were too weird so I suspected my DMM. Sure enough, on a benchtop DC power supply the meter showed large AC reading. Another meter just showed mV of AC so I went back to the surge board and RED-BLK has about 40Vdc and negligible ac (SCG working ok). So back to square one as to why the cell sometimes won't come on.
(Mysteries are interesting when they happen to someone else!)
 
Hi all,

As part of a larger troubleshooting effort, I may want to swap out the Intellicenter's SCG surge board 521593. The rectifier solder pads look burnt so I could change the bridge.
Anyway, I'm confused about the "new style" boards 521218. Aside form the smaller part number, some online pics show an identical board to the 521593 (D2 LED next to R1 & J9), whereas others are missing D2 (or is it relocated to the top right near chassis earth?) What is legit? Is Pentair using the same P/N for different PCBAs?
 
I posted a new thread about identifying a reliable source for the Intellicenter surge boards (521218 vs 521593?) but it was moved to this thread for some reason. I then tried to post that question to an old thread on that subject but my post was deleted and I was told to start a new thread. I'm going in circles here. I don't know if it's the same admin doing the moving and deleting.
 
I don't think we have an answer for you.

Pentair has been known to make running changes without changing the part number.

From searching around I read that 521218 supersedes 521593.
 
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