I'm not the least bit interested in "real world experience" because what that adds up to is "my pool is clear so it must work". That's an opinion, not knowledge. I have seen things far more scientifically laughable than UV and Ozone (both of which have their uses, but not in a residential outdoor pool) get rave reviews by people. People dump random things in their pools all the time and whatever the last thing they added before it cleared up becomes the miracle product that they tell everyone about. So no, if someone is not knowledgeable about water chemistry then their experience does not count as "fact", it counts as opinion.
The truth of your post ruins how funny it should have been as just a joke.
Good thing I was never speaking directly to this Clear Comfort AOP system as I have no dog in this fight.
Please point me to where I offered sales pitches and marketing material. I'll wait. The only thing I offered was A source of information to the original poster. It's on her to make an informed decision. And no, I wouldn't only listen to some yahoos who claim the stuff they poured in from the pool store was the best thing ever. I will consider evidence of good chem levels, lack of algae blooms, and ease of maintenance as things worth weighing.I'm not the least bit interested in "real world experience" because what that adds up to is "my pool is clear so it must work". That's an opinion, not knowledge. I have seen things far more scientifically laughable than UV and Ozone (both of which have their uses, but not in a residential outdoor pool) get rave reviews by people. People dump random things in their pools all the time and whatever the last thing they added before it cleared up becomes the miracle product that they tell everyone about. So no, if someone is not knowledgeable about water chemistry then their experience does not count as "fact", it counts as opinion.
Again, you have way too much trust in your pool builder. I cannot believe that someone who has been here more than a couple of months hasn't seen just how little the "professionals" tend to know. If you saw what goes in to managing a pool on a route compared to what TFP users do, you'd know why putting absolute trust in their title makes very literally laugh out loud.
As for everything coming back to TFP: we have plenty of data sources we can offer. Verifiable, peer reviewed, all that good stuff. So far you've offered opinions, sales pitches, and marketing material and expect us to treat it as if it were on the same level. Not going to happen.
Talk to the family of the girl who died at the whitewater center in Charlotte in 2016. They had a UV/minimal chlorine system but it didn't control the Naegleria fowleri amoeba that killed her.
You're so off and I don't think you even bothered to read my replies. First off, I'm not using the AOP system so I have no need to defend it. You're correct in that once a pool is in balance, a SWG pool won't need one of those expensive maintenance contracts. My PB suggested the same and said going with UV/Ozone/Chlorinator will also eliminate the need for them to come out for servicing. You have no clue what my PB said so you'd never know that he never badmouthed SWG. He offered 3 sanitation methods for my pool including a SWG. He also never expressed that my pool will need regular "shocking" or used scare tactics. I'm a licensed GC and been in the AEC space for a long time. I'm not saying I can't be duped, however I'd like to think I've learned to smell a BS artist a mile away.
45 years of sales experience means someone is an expert at selling. Not just selling products, but selling ideas and selling themselves as knowledgeable sources of information regarding the products they are trying to sell. From everything I've seen, I would infer that he is indeed an expert salesperson.
That is awesome that you trust your pool builder.
Are you building a lake or an ocean? No? Then keep the discussion on pools. They are entirely different things and your diversion attempt is not exactly what I would call "good-faith".
I appreciate your thoughtful and measured response. I totally understand the reticence about believing in new "magic" cures. I can only speak for my own experience where my PB listed the pros/cons of each method and his overall lack of pressure to buy one thing over the other. The UV/Ozone was a little less than the SWG option(and I searched pricing on my own as well before deciding). I will say he never mentioned using any of those mineral systems like copper ionizers and the like. They warranty the equipment above and beyond the manufacturer's own warranty no matter the sanitation method they offered. No hard selling on pool service either. He said I could definitely manage it all myself and it wouldn't be hard. The only "extras" I went for were the in-floor cleaning system and the Wet Edge pebble finish, which after researching, seemed worthwhile investments over cleaning robots and regular plaster. I hope to come back later this summer(if TFP will have me) and offer my own chem results and opinions, both good and bad. Cheers.
Thank you. I'm not trying to stir the pot here at all. This website has been very helpful in many ways and I appreciate all that it has to offer.
Since you mentioned it, the ocean gets all the UV it needs from the sun. (As will your pool). I wouldn’t recommend a supplementary UV system for the ocean either. Lol.
