Pricing/build thoughts in Northern VA?

[mxmumtuna]

Hi all, getting ready to go under contract, and this appears to be the bid we would like to go with.

Area: 562 sq ft under water
Shape of Pool: Free Form
Depth: 3'6" - 6'
Gallons: 15,518

Price Breakdown

Upgrade Items Group Price: $22,035.00
Code	Description
New Build	Jandy IAqualink Automated System - ($4,687.50)
New Build	Aquapure 1400 Jandy Salt System ($1,187.50)
New Build	SR Smith Helix360 Slide with pump and install - ($6,500.00)
New Build	Jandy WaterColor LED Pool Lights - Regular - ($2,950.00 for 3)
New Build	Copper Scuppers (1) 24" and (2) 12" for Waterwall or (3) 24" Brilliant Wonders Descents, includes all plumbing and pump needed - ($2,600.00)
New Build	Upgrade of Interior Finish to a Pebble Sheen or WetEdge - ($2,600.00) *This price is including the discount already given for a Quartz Diamond Brite
New Build	(4) Deck Jets (non lit) - ($1,300.00) If you decide you would like LED Lighted Deck Jets, they are $1,500.00 each to install.

Swimming Pool (Base Price) Group Price: $74,815.00
Code	Description
New Build	6"x 6" Tile - Multiple tiles to choose from
New Build	Coping Stone - Travertine, Bluestone, or Something Similar
New Build	Dirt Removal
New Build	Excavation - Pool Dig
New Build	Free Weekly Service
New Build	Gravel
New Build	Gunite Shell - Base Pool, Tanning Ledge, Raised Bond Beam, and Additional Benches (includes peg board & plastic)
New Build	Jandy Variable Speed Pump
New Build	Jandy DEV60 DE Filter with Multiport Valve
New Build	Machine for Trenching (Plumbing, Gas, & Electric Lines)
New Build	Masonry Labor for Coping & Tile Install
New Build	Additional Materials, Equipment Rentals, and Labor
New Build	Plaster Finish (Grey or Blue Dye Upgrade)
New Build	Plumbing Labor
New Build	Plumbing Material
New Build	Project Management
New Build	Gas Heater 399k BTU
New Build	Start Up Kit (Brush, Pole, Net, Vac Head & Hose)
New Build	Steel Reinforcement - #3's and #4's

Appurtenances Group Price: $650.00 Code Description New Build Electric to be paid directly to Electrician Company. Builder will schedule and manage - (Roughly $4,000.00) New Build Gas to be paid directly to Gas Company. Builder will schedule and manage - (Roughly $3,250.00) New Build Permit Running Fee ($650.00) Hardscapes Group Price: $85,676.50 Code Description Pool Patio New Patio Area to be Travertine on a 4" concrete base (allowance of 1250 sq ft) Patio will be measured and any additional sq ft will be billed or deducted at $29.90 a sq ft - ($38,421.50) Hardscapes 20 LF of 18" CMU Sitting Walls with Thin Stone Veneer and Premium Capstones - ($4,115.00) 20 LF of 24" Sitting Wall on Beam with Thin Stone Veneer and Premium Capstones - ($4,680.00) Bench Area at Slide (3' Backside with a 18" Sitting Area) - ($5,250.00) Additional Veneer to be installed on the backside of all Walls and Pool Back Walls where the grade is lower. - (9,355.00) Hardscapes (2) Gas Firebowls on Stone Columns (also includes an auto ignition for safety) - ($15,600.00) Hardscapes Landscape Boulders (up to 8 med/large boulders) - ($3,900.00) New Build Remove Trex Steps and Put them on other side. Adjust and repair areas of decking as needed. Using existing material besides some covering and fascia boards. Inlcudes installing lattice board for screening and a latch door - ($2,405.00) New Build (12) Low Voltage Lights Installed Under Capstones on Walls. To be pigtailed for landscaper to add onto - ($1,950.00) Demo Work Group Price: $6,500.00 Code Description Hardscapes Demo of Existing Fireplace and all Patio Areas If Pavers are set on a concrete pad, then additional charges will occur. (Includes all dump fees) - ($6,500.00) Discounts and Free Upgrades Group Price: -$2,726.50 Code Description New Build Discount Given - $2,726.50 Free Items Given - Upgrade to a Diamond Brite Quartz Finish Free Basketball Goal Increase the Pool Size 62 sq ft Add an additional Deck Jet

Total Price: $186,950.00

Definitely excited! 3 year warranty on the entire build, including patio materials. I went into it preferring Pentair, based on research here, but I am cool with Jandy. So, thoughts on the new build?

Build includes the pool and patio, though not the deck or kitchen (which both already exist).

 

[kimkats]

That is one awesome looking build design! That slide is awesome! The bench over there is a nice touch.

As far as price there is no way for any of us to say if you are getting a good price as each area is so different...........we have even seen where being on this side or that side of a big town like Huston, TX can impact pricing.

Here are a couple of things I see you need to check on:
-pumps-need the model numbers for the pool, and special features pumps

-gas heater-brand and model

-plumbing-lets talk about the valves at the equipment pad-no mention was made of what kind. Jandy makes good ones. Make sure you have a valve to control everything on it's own. Do NOT allow any ball valves as they go bad over time here the good ones can be rebuilt.

-unions-you will want unions on all equipment so you can service it without having to cut any pipes.

-light over the equipment pad-make sure there is one. You will thank me when you have to run out there in the middle of a dark and stormy night!

I think I got everything but will look it over again with fresh eyes.

Kim

 

[mxmumtuna]

From the PB:

The slide and descents will be on separate individual pumps. I adjusted wording already. All valves besides the individual runs for the deck jets will be Jandy neverlube. The deck jets will be on separate plumbing run and will be on ball valves (they are 3/4 pvc and get set and pretty much never touched). Everything is tied to the automated system and on individual on/off settings. The deck jets are tied to the main returns with an automated valve. You should very rarely to never have to go back to the system to mess with valves. Everything is automated.

The descents are on a jandy flopro 2hp, slide I think comes with a pump if not it will also be jandy flopro. The main pump is jandy VS plusHP.

We never use ball valves for any of the components besides when we run individual lines for deck jets.

 

[kimkats]

I really like his answers. I do want to make sure of one thing...........make sure you can turn the jets off and still let the returns run. It sounds like you can but want to 100% sure. Those jets can get nosily and they push your pH up so you want to be able to run the returns without the jets going. You also want the jets AFTER the filter. They are very picky about stuff getting in them.

Kim

 

[mxmumtuna]

From the pool builder:

Deck jets are tied into returns, however I will take the additional not lighted jet I was giving you for free and turn that into a separate pump. So they can run while returns are running.

Looks like we're good there now too! Thanks so much for your help Kim!

 

[kimkats]

SWEET!

 

[mxmumtuna]

Heater is Jandy JXI400NN