Pentair Intellicenter just shuts down

[Shad]

Anybody have a problem with the Intellicenter just turning the pool system off? We can have ours running and then it will just shut down, we head over to the Intellicenter box outside and the pool button will be off. You can also go on the Pentair app and turn the button back on and everything fires right back up. Our pool is 3 weeks old!

Anybody have the same issue or have any idea what could be the problem?

Thanks in advance!!

 

[Jimrahbe]

S,

You need to have a schedule that tells the system when to turn the pool mode on or off

I suspect that you are manually turning the pool on and off.. If that is what you are doing, keep in mind that it will only run until the egg-timer times out. The default egg-timer is 12 hours.
You can adjust the egg-timer or you can set it to "Don't Stop".

Show us your schedules.

Thanks,

Jim R.

 

[Shad]

Thanks for the reply Jim.

I actually don’t have a schedule set up in my intellicenter as of right now. I just let the pump run 24/7 and adjust my speeds by my app on my phone.

If it is the egg-timer how do I go about setting that to don't stop?

S,

You need to have a schedule that tells the system when to turn the pool mode on or off

I suspect that you are manually turning the pool on and off.. If that is what you are doing, keep in mind that it will only run until the egg-timer times out. The default egg-timer is 12 hours.
You can adjust the egg-timer or you can set it to "Don't Stop".

Show us your schedules.

Thanks,

Jim R.

 

[Jimrahbe]

Shad,

The system is designed to be controlled by schedules otherwise what point is an automation system??

I have an Easytouch and not the IntelliCenter, so I am not familiar with the new interface..

Let's see if @MyAZPool can chime in...

For the EasyTouch there is an egg-timer menu and you just select the circuit you want to change and crank time time up until it changes to "Don't Stop" I assume your IntelliCenter works the same basic way.

Did your pool builder not set up a basic program in your IntelliCenter???

Thanks,

Jim R.

 

[Shad]

I just got into the intelliCenter program outside and turned all the egg-timers off as they were set to 12hrs. I guess I sill see if that makes a difference. The pool builder set up some schedules but not one for the pump. He said he wanted the pump to run 24/7 for a bit and then we would program it. We just opened the pool 3 weeks ago

 

[Jimrahbe]

Shad,

Just so that we are all on the same page.. There is no schedule for the "pump"... You schedule the Pool Circuit or the Spa Circuit or any other Circuit you want to control and then you assign a speed you want the pump to run when that Circuit is turned on. As an example.. If you want the pump to run in the pool mode 24/7, you would schedule the Pool Circuit from 8 am until 8 am and then assign a speed of say 1400 RPM to the Pool Circuit. This will cause the pump to come on at 8 am and never shut off. It will also tell the pump to run at 1400 RPM.

At this point turning off the egg-timers should solve your system turn off issue.

Thanks,

Jim R.

 

[MyAZPool]

@Shad
@Jimrahbe is correct. You can schedule a Feature Circuit, AUX Circuit or Circuit Group, however you should try to always have either one of your body circuits (pool or spa) on at the same time in most applications.

Take a look at the this video and see if it doesn't answer some of your basic questions. It should answer many of your questions regarding IntelliCenter Feature Circuits and how to associate those circuits with Pump Speeds and/or Flows and Valve Actuator associations. In addition, questions regarding the creation and uses of Circuit Groups (macros) as well.

Then if you still have some questions, fire away. There are many here who can help you out with getting your system setup and having it do what you want it to do.

Thanks...
r.

 

[Shad]

Shad,

Just so that we are all on the same page.. There is no schedule for the "pump"... You schedule the Pool Circuit or the Spa Circuit or any other Circuit you want to control and then you assign a speed you want the pump to run when that Circuit is turned on. As an example.. If you want the pump to run in the pool mode 24/7, you would schedule the Pool Circuit from 8 am until 8 am and then assign a speed of say 1400 RPM to the Pool Circuit. This will cause the pump to come on at 8 am and never shut off. It will also tell the pump to run at 1400 RPM.

At this point turning off the egg-timers should solve your system turn off issue.

Thanks,

Jim R.

Jim,

You are correct, as of right now we don't have any schedule set up for my pump to turn on or off. The builder wanted to make a couple changes as I was blowing a breaker every so often. Now the breaker is fixed we think, so I will be setting up a schedule soon.

The eggs are turned off so we will see if this works as I'm pretty sure it will. I had no clue about the egg timers till you brought it up. Thank you so much for the help.

 

[Shad]

@Shad
@Jimrahbe is correct. You can schedule a Feature Circuit, AUX Circuit or Circuit Group, however you should try to always have either one of your body circuits (pool or spa) on at the same time in most applications.

Take a look at the this video and see if it doesn't answer some of your basic questions. It should answer many of your questions regarding IntelliCenter Feature Circuits and how to associate those circuits with Pump Speeds and/or Flows and Valve Actuator associations. In addition, questions regarding the creation and uses of Circuit Groups (macros) as well.

Then if you still have some questions, fire away. There are many here who can help you out with getting your system setup and having it do what you want it to do.

Thanks...
r.

Thank you man! Im gonna watch it right now. I do know I'm going to have a question about programming my lights. I will watch this video and then find out want kinda lights I have and reach out to you guys!

 

[Shad]

@Jimrahbe and @MyAZPool

Do you guys know anything about programming the Pentait MicroBrite lights into the intellicenter? They put those in our pool and everytime I want to change the color or go from a solid one color to multicolor I have to just turn them off and on real quick. Seems like there would be a better way to set those up. I have them doing all kinds of different stuff and have no idea how I did it. I went from a solid color to multi color to the pool lights were pink and the fountain lights were white(which looked cool). There has to be a different way of programming them I would think but cant find anything on the net.

 

[Jimrahbe]

Shad,

You should have a circuits set up page... Each light circuit must have a Circuit Function of "IntelliBrite".. Then you should see some light control pages..

Thanks,

Jim R.

 

[Shad]

Shad,

You should have a circuits set up page... Each light circuit must have a Circuit Function of "IntelliBrite".. Then you should see some light control pages..

Thanks,

Jim R.

I will get into that today sometime and see what I can figure out. I was told the MicroBrights couldn't be controlled throught the Intellicenter like that. I found that hard to believe but then I couldn't really find anything on them.

 

[Jimrahbe]

Shad,

Since the IntelliCenter is new, it may have a Circuit Function of "MicroBrites", I doubt it, but I'd look through the whole list of Functions just to make sure.

Since you can change the color by switching the Aux (light) relay on and off, I suspect it will work just fine using "IntelliBrite" as that is how they are controlled.

Thanks,

Jim R.

 

[MyAZPool]

@Shad
In the IntelliCenter Web-Client, AUX-Circuits Function, Circuit Type selection pull-down, there is no "MicroBrite" selection available.
However, as @Jimrahbe points out, the microBrites work the same as IntelliBrites, so just select "IntelliBrite" in the Circuit Type pull-down like so.


It say's basically the same in the MicroBrite Installation and User's Guide. I realize this is for an EasyTouch but basically works the same for all of the Pentair Automation Systems. The only challenge here is the ability to interpret Pentairgalese, which is not always easy.


Thanks...
r.

 

[Shad]

Shad,

Since the IntelliCenter is new, it may have a Circuit Function of "MicroBrites", I doubt it, but I'd look through the whole list of Functions just to make sure.

Since you can change the color by switching the Aux (light) relay on and off, I suspect it will work just fine using "IntelliBrite" as that is how they are controlled.

Thanks,

Jim R.

Thank you

 

[Shad]

@Shad
In the IntelliCenter Web-Client, AUX-Circuits Function, Circuit Type selection pull-down, there is no "MicroBrite" selection available.
However, as @Jimrahbe points out, the microBrites work the same as IntelliBrites, so just select "IntelliBrite" in the Circuit Type pull-down like so.
View attachment 350458

It say's basically the same in the MicroBrite Installation and User's Guide. I realize this is for an EasyTouch but basically works the same for all of the Pentair Automation Systems. The only challenge here is the ability to interpret Pentairgalese, which is not always easy.

View attachment 350459
Thanks...
r.

Thank you

 

[Shad]

@Jimrahbe and @MyAZPool .....I have the lights set up as intelliBrites now. That did the trick as I have many more options now.

Now its time to set up different pump times with different speeds... Im taking baby steps but thank you guys for the help

 

[Shad]

Thank you

@Shad
In the IntelliCenter Web-Client, AUX-Circuits Function, Circuit Type selection pull-down, there is no "MicroBrite" selection available.
However, as @Jimrahbe points out, the microBrites work the same as IntelliBrites, so just select "IntelliBrite" in the Circuit Type pull-down like so.
View attachment 350458

It say's basically the same in the MicroBrite Installation and User's Guide. I realize this is for an EasyTouch but basically works the same for all of the Pentair Automation Systems. The only challenge here is the ability to interpret Pentairgalese, which is not always easy.

View attachment 350459
Thanks...
r.

@MyAZPool
This might be a real stupid question but when setting up circuits do you need to know what AUX they are wired into the intellicenter or does the system know? I have colorcasade fountain lights and that pops up in my drop down box under circuit type. I didn't know if I can just give it a circuit name and control them on their own.

 

[Jimrahbe]

Shad,

The system only knows that it has a specific set of "things". It has no idea if those things are being used or not. It has no idea what those things are wired for. You have to know how your system is wired and what each "thing" is wired to do.

As an example... Let's say you have Aux 1 wired so that it turns on a pool light. The system only knows that it has a Circuit called Aux 1. You can leave the Circuit Name as Aux 1, but then you have to remember what Aux 1 does.. So, it makes sense to rename Aux 1 "Pool Light". The Circuit Name is just what you call it.. The system does not care what you call it.. You could name it "Upside down cake" if you wanted.. The system will just turn on the Aux 1 Circuit, no matter what you call it.

Normally the system does not know what Aux 1 does.. It just turns on Aux 1 when you tell it to turn on Aux 1. The Circuit Function tells the system that the Circuit is special. Most of the time it is best to leave the Circuit Function as Generic.. But as you have seen with the lights, if you tell the system that the Circuit is for an IntelliBrite, then the system knows to act a certain way so it can control the light.

Thanks,

Jim R.

 

[MyAZPool]

@MyAZPool
This might be a real stupid question but when setting up circuits do you need to know what AUX they are wired into the intellicenter or does the system know? I have colorcasade fountain lights and that pops up in my drop down box under circuit type. I didn't know if I can just give it a circuit name and control them on their own.

Jim,
The user still must know what item is wired to what relay.
Then on setup, the user gives the AUX circuit a "circuit name" and then selects what kind of circuit it is in the Circuit Type (Function) pulldown.
Then the IntelliCenter has the ability to allow certain functions to be selected based on what type of "circuit" it is (Function), but not based on the name of the circuit..



Thanks...
r..