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Thanks for the info. How do I know if the floc uses aluminum or other metals? I'm looking at some Clorox Pool and Spa Sink to Clear Flocculant. But it does not list the ingredients. I looked up the msds and it just says Cationic blend(Contains hydroxchloride complex) .
I usually make a habit of not adding anything to the pool without knowing the ingredients.

Thanks again.
 
Definitely do the bucket test first. Also, follow whatever instructions come with it for water adjustment. Floccs tend to work only when the pH and other values are just right. So there can be a bit of water chemistry adjustments needed.
 
Hey Ron, if you pm me your mailing address I can ship you a sample quantity of some Leslie's alum floc for a few bucket tests so you can try before you buy ;). I have a container i bought for iron experiments that I hope to NOT need because in a month I'll be paying a grand for 23,000 gallons of trucked water when they change my liner ;)

But do you have a way to vacuum to waste? Don't wanna mess up your cartridges...and this product specifies vacuuming to waste.

The floc worked great on my bucket test onmy raw well water, but my experiment failed on my sequestered pool water. But right now, you're not sequestered..so its the perfect time to try it.

Here's a pc from my well experiment..,if you get the same result, we just might get you to a blue pool ;) When you experiment, be sure to try the lowest ph possible/practical (eg 7 ish).

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Wow thanks for the offer, But I have already ordered it and it's shipped.
I will definitely try a bucket test first. I guess if it works I might have to buy one of those battery powered vacs that don't use the pump/filter.

Have you checked to see if your local fire department will fill your pool? My local volunteer fire department filled mine for a donation. I gave them $500 and fed them :) Was a lot cheaper and the money went to a good cause. win-win
 
No, I haven't had a chance. It's been raining off and on since the day I received the floc. I'm just draining water everyday. But it's made a huge difference!
I don't think I need the floc now.
 

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No, I haven't had a chance. It's been raining off and on since the day I received the floc. I'm just draining water everyday. But it's made a huge difference!
I don't think I need the floc now.
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So it was your well water all along? It seems you need to recheck it at different lab. If you lose water due to evaporation and keep adding it from the well eventually over years you'd increase concentration of whatever you well water contains multiple times over. Rain water apparently doesn't contain the same impurity.
 
I would still suggest you do a bucket test on the floc with your pool water. If the floc does precipitate out the chemical in your pool water then it tells you what you can do to treat the cloudiness.
 
So I tried the Floc today and......nothing. I filled a 5 gallon bucket with pool water, added floc at around 830 am, and as of 815 pm it just looks like a bucket of clear water.
Once again I had my well water tested twice. I have an 1100 gallon reef tank, so I have to be very careful with my water source.
 
Ron69 said:
So I tried the Floc today and......nothing. I filled a 5 gallon bucket with pool water, added floc at around 830 am, and as of 815 pm it just looks like a bucket of clear water.
Once again I had my well water tested twice. I have an 1100 gallon reef tank, so I have to be very careful with my water source.
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Depending on the 'age' of your water in the pool you could unintentionally raise concentration of what is in your well water multiple times due to evaporation. Water in reef tank is probably replaced, not topped up so this effect doesn't exist there. If full drain/refill was an option I think you'd get clear water in the pool. Have you ever tested your pool water for metals?
 
Hi Ron. That's a huge reef tank! My hubby would be jealous ;)
Your water looks a lot clearer from such a comparatively small dilution! I'd be setting up a rain collection system from your roof for top ups ;)

Sorry I don't recall but does your well show any trace iron at all?
And how long ago did you have the original water trucked -- you'd mentioned the fire dept...so the water was from a hydrant? If so, the original water may have had metal, or iron bacteria, or had you already exhausted those possibilities?

Also, to mentioned your salt cell died -- did it die prematurely? Eg how many years did you get and what was it rated for. When you added the original salt, was it specifically pool salt? Some salt seems to add iron. Just more fodder for thought :)

Am glad you have some clearing from the rain nonetheless!

Update: maybe crazy but had another thought. Water was fine until your winter cover ripped and you got gunk/algae on opening, right?

Do you have an oak tree near your pool?

The other thing that can stain in water or tint water yellow is tanin. Bleach is normally supposed to over time remove tanin stains, but I still have a "not metal" faint stain in the corner where a pile of oak leaves sat for 2 years during a foreclosure, and I'd recovered the pool 5 years ago.

I've heard of tanin water before in wells, but don know a lot about it or behavior. But I am wondering if is possible somehow that something in the fire hydrant water combined with tanin.

So, this all might be entirely crackpot...just mentioning it because I retread your thread starter from 2 years ago ;)
 
This pool has been up for 5 years. I have had the pool tested for metals a few times and by different pool stores. We have 3 large elm trees around our pool but no oaks.
We had an Intex Swg. It was cheap but did the job. The first one lasted quite a while but after it went out the replacements seemed to be short lived. And a cell cost as much as a whole unit. So we just gave up on it. Besides last year and this year we have slammed more than not. We used pool salt.
Our pool is shaded almost all the time. Normally rain and evaporation pretty much equal out. So we seldom have to add water. Can water get stale? lol.
It really amazes me how big a difference 6-8 inches of water replaced made. The pool looks great now. But it seems I have met my quota and can't upload any more pictures.
Anyhow.....The pool test are all perfect, the water looks great, so for now all is good. Will just have to see what the future holds.
I believe within the next 2-3 years we will have to replace the liner. I have tree roots pushing up against it. I knew we would eventually have this problem but we weren't willing to give up the trees. We are thinking hard about putting in an inground pool then.
 
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your pool is definitely unique- nothing worked as expected so far. No, water is water and it doesn't go bad. You have some impurity in your water but it is something not normally seen in other pools otherwise you'd already caught it.
Someone pulled a joke on all us and added green food dye in there? I mean water is colorless liquid. If it is not then something gives it color, it's just not what we usually see in other pools.

Do you happen to have a chemist friend who would be willing to find out or university with chem department nearby?
 

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