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A little bit of corned beef kitchen science - The Food Lab's Guide to Corned Beef and the Science of Simmering | Serious Eats

Corning/brining Update

I've decided to wait the full 10 days for the meat to cure. That will put me right up against St. Patrick's Day so the timing is great. I took the bags out today to rotate them and the meat is definitely looking a bit lighter in color. I'm hoping for a flavorful and successful experiment....or I'll get botulism and land up in the hospital....


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JN, ever make pastrami/smoked corned beef? I've tried a couple times and each attempt has yielded over-salted meat. I am using the prepackaged stuff and may not be soaking in fresh water long enough to fully dilute the salt.

Edit:
I also took the opportunity to install a higher resolution glycerin filled gauge. Now I can read 1/2psi increments.
Tempting but I only run 4psi during the normal cycle.
 
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I have not tried that but my brother, who worked in an Italian butcher store and has made every kind of smoked/dried/cured meat product told me that it is very easy to screw up any kind of cured meat by not getting the salt and spice ratios right. And, of course, if you don't get the preservatives right, you'll kill everyone.

I did my corned beef recipe simply because I'm always so unhappy with the prepackaged stuff. I'd have to experiment with brining and smoking to find a good pastrami protocol.

Mmmmm....pastrami.....I used to live in NYC where one could get incredible pastrami sandwiches.....


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I have a 22.5 inch weber smoky mountain smoker. I am looking to get a temperature controller to put on it. Has anyone tried these? Any recommendations?


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I have the cyberQwifi from BBQguru. It is expensive but awesome. I can log into my smoker controller IP from any device on the internet to monitor meat temps, smoker temp, change smoker temp and other settings. They make non-wifi versions also. I've had it for several years now and it holds temp steady on my Primo. It also has a ramp down feature that reads off the temp probe and as the meat temp finishes it will lower the smoker temp to hold the temp. Really cool feature that takes some of the worry out.

Another one is Auber Instruments. They have some smoker stuff. I use their temp stuff on my wood stoves.
 
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RIBS!

Ok, here they are in the rack after marinating in the fridge overnight -

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I put them in the smoker at 225F for 5 hours. Every hour they got spritz with the following -

2:1:1 - Apple juice : maple syrup : molasses

After 3 hours up in the rack, I put them bone side down flat on the steel grate to finish.

Here they are DONE -

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And the close-up

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And the plate

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The ribs were PERFECT! They were juicy and tender but still adherent to the bone with a little bit of chew to them. I specifically went with the unwrapped/open method because I did not want them boiled in their own juices. That certainly gets them to fall off the bone but that's not the texture I wanted. I like my ribs with a little bit of chew to them. The spritz was the perfect add on - it left a wonderfully sticky-sweet layer that stuck to your fingers. The molasses and maple syrup gave it a really well balance sweet and caramel flavor. I didn't even use any BBQ sauce, the ribs just had all the flavor you needed.

I ate a full rack myself and now need a 6 hour nap....or chop down half a forest of trees....


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They look awesome! :chef:

But were you banging your fingers against your iPad screen trying to grab them?

If not, then I must try harder next time....


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Looks great.... I have been away Ice Fishing so no recent cooks ....pics to follow!


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Looks great.... I have been away Ice Fishing so no recent cooks ....pics to follow!


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There better some nice looking fish on the smoker soon for all that rear-end freezing you subjected yourself too.... :nemo:


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And before you ask, no they are not the same fish! LOL

Had a blast, probably caught 70 in three days, these were the nicer fish fish. These are walleye for those of you who may not know, probably the best tasting freshwater fish there is in my opinion.


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This is what we fished out of, it's called a Sno Bear. These things are awesome, they lift up and set down hydraulically, then basically they can get through anything ..... they sit down on the ice and you fish right out of them. 75° comfort.
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Caught a beautiful sunset, I know this is a cooking thread, but in a roundabout way fish can qualify as cooking correct? LOL
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If you're interested, check out the video in this link. They're awesome.

http://snobearcanada.com/


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Ok, here's the agenda for yesterday, today and tomorrow.
Yesterday smoke 4 big sockeye salmon filets, 2 for fish dip and 2 to eat
Today make fish dip (recipe below) and beefy cheese stuff
Tomorrow, smoked meatloaf

I had 2 hunks of beef shoulder that I didn't know what to do with so here is the plan
Put them in foil with bacon grease and some port
Stubbs BBQ rub
Garlic powder
Onion powder
Smoked paprika
In the oven at 300 until it falls apart.

Then I'll put it in my magic cheese sauce (available in prior posts here) and we can eat it with zucchini chips or tater chips
 
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To make it easier to pull the smoked fish dip recipe out I decided to use a new post

Smoked fish/seafood dip

Ingredients:
2ish lbs of whatever seafood you like
I've made it with crawfish tails, shrimp, smoked salmon, smoked tuna, crab and all combos of those.
Today I am using smoked salmon and small salad shrimp

6-8 oz. Sour Cream
2 lbs Cream Cheese
1/2 C. Vermouth, extra dry
1 C. Onion, finely diced, sometimes I skip this and just use onion powder
1 C. Green Onion, washed, finely diced
1/4 lb. unsalted Butter
2t. Cayenne Pepper - I don't always do this
2T. Crystal Hot Sauce - I don't always do this
Lemon Juice, freshly squeezed - I don't always use this
2t. Tony Chachere Creole Seasoning
Sometimes I'll toss some parmesan cheese in at the end if it needs a little something


Directions:
In a large pan, melt butter.
Add onions; cook for approximately 5-8 minutes, until translucent.
Add cream cheese, sour cream, and fresh lemon juice.
Whisk until creamy and smooth.

Mix in seafood, vermouth, cayenne, hot sauce, and Tony’s.
Cook for 10 minutes over a low flame, stirring constantly to prevent scorching.
Place into serving dish.

Chill in refrigerator for several hours.

Grab your favorite dipping tools (chips or raw zucchini slices).

Enjoy!
 
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Here is another fantastic seafood dip

INGREDIENTS
8 oz. cream cheese, softened to room temperature
1 c. mayonnaise, I've also used sour cream
1 1/2 c. shredded Monterey Jack or 4 cheese blend, divided
1/2 c. finely grated Parmesan
1 14- oz. can artichoke hearts, chopped finely
2 cloves garlic, minced
salt and pepper
12 oz. lump crab meat
2 green onions or chives, sliced
2 tsp. Worcestershire sauce
2 tbsp. chopped parsley
1 baguette, sliced and toasted (I prefer to eat it on raw zucchini slices)

DIRECTIONS
Preheat oven to 425 degrees F.
In a large bowl, combine cream cheese, mayonnaise, 1 cup Monterey Jack, Parmesan, artichokes, garlic, crab meat, green onions and worcestershire. Season to taste with salt and pepper.
Transfer dip to a 10” cast iron skillet and sprinkle remaining Monterey Jack cheese on top. Bake until warmed through and bubbly, about 15-20 minutes.
Top with parsley. Serve warm with toasted baguette slices or raw zucchini slices.
 
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Corned Beef (Update)

So I wanted to update my previous corning recipe (See Post #265) with some new research and thoughts that I had. Food safety is important and I'm always very clean when I cook. So, in researching corned beef recipes, I noted that most use some form of nitrite based preservative. Most notably, Prague Powder #1 (also known as pink salt #1, quick cure #1, sal rose, etc) is used a lot for brined/cured meats. Prague Powder #1 is essnetially 6.25% sodium nitrite, 93.75% sodium chloride and some red dye #1 (to make it pink). The directions for use call for 1 level teaspoon per gallon of brining solution. And the reason for it's use is quite specific -

Botulism

Botulism is a sickness caused by the toxin generated from the Clostridium botulinum bacteria. C. botulinum is found everywhere in the environment. It is a gram-negative (that's a type of identifying stain used to classify bacteria), anaerobic and spore forming motile bacteria that produces several different toxins, three of which are very harmful to humans. Some of the defining characteristics of C. botulinum is that it needs anaerobic (no oxygen) conditions to reproduce itself and, if conditions are not right, it will form a basically impenetrable spore to protect itself until conditions are right. The disease botulism comes in many different forms (food botulism, wound botulism and infant botulism) but they are all characterized as a disease of progressive paralysis that can be (although typically isn't) fatal and takes weeks of recovery time. So, botulism can develop very easily in liquid cure meats....so what do I do with my corned beef (cuz I'm too cheap to throw it away)?

Light-bulb moment - Pressure Cooker!!

So, as it turns out, C. botulinum is not that hard to kill! The bacteria itself will be killed at temperatures above 140F and the toxins are inactivated and destroyed at 212F (100C). So, boiling the corned beef will kill both the bacteria AND the toxins. But what about the spores? Well, those little buggers can survive to quite high temperatures, around 240F, before being destroyed. And so, this is where the pressure cooker comes in.

As it should so happen, I have a very high quality electric pressure cooker that I rarely use. It's a nice little Cuisinart model that can brown/saute and do both low and high pressure cooking. The nice feature of pressure cookers is that they go up to ~15psi (1 bar) pressure which means the water in them boils at about 250F. So, for C. botulinum that's perfect for destroying any bacteria, spores or toxins that might have developed. The pressure cooker is also perfectly suited to cook any meat that one would also normally braise and it does so in about 1/3'rd the time. For brisket, this is great because the high heat and pressure will help to break down the proteins in the meat as well as the collagen and hopefully make the meat very soft and tender. A 2-lbs piece of brisket takes ~ 50mins to cook in the pressure cooker. The equivalent piece of meat boiling in a pot could easily take 3 to 4 hours.

So, today, I am experimenting on one of my cuts of brisket to see how it turns out. I pulled the meat from the corning liquid, rinsed off all the spices and patted it dry. I browned the meat first and then sauteed onion and garlic. I added Bay leaf, peppercorns, coriander seeds, 1-1/2 cups of water with a teaspoon of Kitchen Bouquet browning liquid to the pot. I then set the pressure cooker on high for 50mins and will let it do a natural pressure release for 20mins after that (you don't want to do a quick release as that can harden the proteins in the meat).

As a final note - am I worried about botulism? No. The meat I used was fresh and from a reputable supplier. I was very careful in my handling of it and the brine liquid was boiled prior to use. The meat remained in low temperatures for the past 7 days. I'm pretty sure I could have cooked it the normal stove top method and would be just fine. But, since I have young kids, I could not in good conscience feed them anything I thought might do them harm. So, pressure cooking is a good way to experiment and still feel good about the end result. I have ordered myself some Prague Powder #1 and I plan to use it in the future as I have always been dying (figuratively speaking) to use my drying oven to do some homemade beef jerky...
 
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Corned Beef (Update #2)

I just pulled the corned beef from the pressure cooker and the results are in -

Taste - PHENOMENAL!
Tenderness - INCREDIBLE!
Aroma - POWERFUL!

I only took a small piece off the end to try because you can't cut corned beef right out of the oven without it completely coming apart in shards. But, from the little I tasted, it was fabulous. Obviously the flavor of the brine with the pickling spices is there (cinnamon, clove, allspice) and the broth added a lot of flavor too (onion, garlic, Bay leaf). So, all-in-all, the method worked really well and I honestly can't see myself not using the pressure cooker more often. It really did produce a very tender piece of corned beef. Oh, and bonus, no frothy scummy foam to constantly strain off the top of the pot...

So, come this Thursday, I will cook up my other piece of brisket with the traditional cabbage, carrot and potato sides. The neat part of the pressure cooker is you can cook the meat first for about an hour or so and then put that aside in a warm oven. Then, the potatoes take 6mins in the PC, and the carrots and cabbage take like 2 mins to cook. You can simply use the same liquid that the beef was boiled in and the flavors will all come through.
 

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