New Intelitouch i10 3d setup

[Mhambel1]

Hello,
I recently changed it out an easy touch circuitboard that went bad for an Intelitouch i10 3D. There are some differences I’m trying to wrap my head around. Here are my questions if anyone could help me troubleshoot.

1. I have my VS pump set to run at a medium RPM most of the time for filtering and chlorination, but I run it at a high RPM for an hour or two in the morning for the skimmer. My SWG is powered through a relay connected to the “pool pump” socket on the circuit board. It appears I could only choose one RPM setting to trigger the pool pump relay. Is there a way to run the saltwater generator whenever the pump is running?

2. I have a heater bypass valve. The new circuit board only has room for two valves without the expansion module. Is there a workaround to control a third valve using any of the other connections? Aux etc…

3. Valve assignments. Only two sockets without an expansion board. I have my intake and return valves and the A and B socket for now. I’m surprised I can’t just assign them as intake and return. I have them set to change whenever the spa heater is active for now, but that does not allow me to have a spillway for spa water circulation with the pool. Assuming I need an expansion board for my heater bypass valve anyways, what’s the best way to get the spillway to work? I do have a manual valve on the pool return to divert a little bit to the spa when the pool is filtering. I’d like to be able to turn on the cascade from the spa to the pool (pool suction, Spa return) for the waterfall look.

Inground Freeform plaster pool and spa
Pentair inteliflo VSF
Pentair whisper flo water feature pump
Intelichlor SWG ic 40
Master temp 400k with bypass valve
DE filter
Intelitouch i10 3D controller
Intelibrite led lights
Programming and control with Screen Logic

 

[ajw22]

1. I have my VS pump set to run at a medium RPM most of the time for filtering and chlorination, but I run it at a high RPM for an hour or two in the morning for the skimmer. My SWG is powered through a relay connected to the “pool pump” socket on the circuit board. It appears I could only choose one RPM setting to trigger the pool pump relay. Is there a way to run the saltwater generator whenever the pump is running?

Show us how you have your circuits, VS speeds, and schedules setup.

When your pump is on at any speed, you need to be in AUTO and POOL mode with the Filter Pump F relay on. That will ensure your SWG is generated whenever the pump is running.

The POOL circuit should be set to the lowest VS pump speed you desire. Then you can use other AUX circuits or feature circuts to increase the pump speed as needed.

When multiple circuits with VS speeds are running the highest speed wins.

2. I have a heater bypass valve. The new circuit board only has room for two valves without the expansion module. Is there a workaround to control a third valve using any of the other connections? Aux etc…

This circuit allows you to control an actuator using a high-voltage AUX relay. AUX relays use two wires: 24 VDC and ground. Valve actuators use three wires: two 24 VAC lines and ground. AC on one line turns the valve one way, and AC on the other line turns the valve the other way.

You could use the AUX relay to control the 24 VAC so that it will turn the valve using the following circuit. But normal AUX relays won't work as they do not have any Normally Closed contacts. You need a relay that has NC and NO contacts, such as the Pentair 520198, 2-speed relay, which has NC and NO terminals and will plug into a Jandy, Pentair, or Hayward board.

3. Valve assignments. Only two sockets without an expansion board. I have my intake and return valves and the A and B socket for now. I’m surprised I can’t just assign them as intake and return.

Which ones do you want to assign as Intake and return?

Why not use the intake and return sockets on the board?

I have them set to change whenever the spa heater is active for now, but that does not allow me to have a spillway for spa water circulation with the pool. Assuming I need an expansion board for my heater bypass valve anyways, what’s the best way to get the spillway to work?

Use the Intake and Return valves as designed and use SPILLWAY mode. Those are all standard features.

I do have a manual valve on the pool return to divert a little bit to the spa when the pool is filtering. I’d like to be able to turn on the cascade from the spa to the pool (pool suction, Spa return) for the waterfall look.

What do you have plugged into Valve A and Valve B?

 

[Mhambel1]

I have attached pictures of my schedules and set up from the app. As far as the intake and return valves go, there isn’t a spot for them on this circuit board.

I’ve also attached a picture of the valve assignment choices. Right now, it’s set to activate on spa mode. That’s the most common thing I need if I can only have them one do one thing right now.

My old circuit board had one relay for filter pump, this one has one for pool pump one for spa pump. It also had four valve sockets, intake, return, A, B.

I do have plenty of Aux positions left. That may be my best option

As far as the spillway function, the pump RPM increases with the valves, do not move and I suspect because they only have a single function right now.

 

[ajw22]

Your old board was a POOL+SPA board. This board is POOL only. It has no builtin logic for a spa, spillway, or intake and return valves.

@ogdento is there a separate spa personality board for the IntelliTouch?

You should run your POOL circuit from 6AM to 1PM, the entire time the pump is running. Then POOL HIGH runs from 6AM to 7AM, and Spillway runs from Noon to 1 PM.

 

[Mhambel1]

Ok. I’ll change those settings. Now I’m kicking myself for not just doing the Intelicenter conversion upgrade kit or finding a direct replacement board. I came across the board I got for a good deal and should have looked deeper into it.

 

[ogdento]

Hey @ajw22 and @Mhambel1 the personality board I see in the picture is an i10+3D which is a dual equipment board - it's not a pool only. it can control two different sets of equipment (presumably a pool and a spa), but it's different from the i5/7/9+3 in that it's not a shared configuration... unfortunately I don't really know anything more than that about shared vs dual equipment

@Mhambel1 what was your old board? Why not just put the old personality card on what you have now? i.e. take off the top i10+3d board and put on whatever was on your old system. The mainboard/motherboard is the same for all intellitouch systems, and it detects what it "should be" based on what personality board (the top board) you plug into it

 

[ajw22]

I recently changed it out an easy touch circuitboard that went bad for an Intelitouch i10 3D.

@Mhambel1 what was your old board? Why not just put the old personality card on what you have now? i

It was a change from an EasyTouch to IntelliTouch board.

Yeah, I though that might be a dual body card.

It effectively makes it POOL only for a shared system equipment configuration.

So she needs to change the top board to a POOL/SPA personality card to get spa intake/return functionality?

 

[ogdento]

ahhh, didn't realize it was an Easytouch before. Yeah, an i5+3, i7+3 or i9+3 would have the shared (intake/return) functionality. From the manual...

Main Outdoor Control Panel

• Shared Equipment Systems Model i5+3, i7+3, i9+3
• Single Body Systems Model i5S+3, i9+3S
• Dual Body Dual Equipment Systems Model i10+3
• Expansion Centers Model i5x, i10

The i5 has fewer Aux circuits than the 7 or 9... it's kindof like the Easytouch 4 vs Easytouch 8 in that regard.