New Build in Red Stick- **pic heavy** 3-25 update

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Nightmare said:
That's a lot of drain holes :shock:
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Well I am using NDS 6" channel drain. The sections are a meter long with a 4" hole in each section. I am also tying this in to my gutter drains to go to the sump so 4" piping was a must ( see the video on pg one for a sample of water flow without gutters.)

We just had a severe thunderstorm move through, and it dumped quite a bit of rain :( but I dashed off to lowes for fittings to go from my sump pump to the discharge hose and everything is drained now, just need it to dry out a bit. I had set up my gutters with temporary outflow pipes to drain into the trench and all seemed to go as planned. A nice 25 degree temp drop too. It's 75 now.
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Oh spillmar, water down here is a nuisance. That sump is 500 gal, an it filled up in a snap. Pumped out just as quick. But the sump hole is still unconcreted. When I jumped down in it to adjust the piping I sank up to my knees in mud. That's gonna be fun to try to lay concrete in for the sump body.
 
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So weekly update time. I moved all the dirt from pool trim out and drainage that you see in the last photos out of the way and with the help of a friend got started on plumbing. We laid out all the piping from pools edge almost all the way back to the pad, cut things to length and dry -assembled. I need to finish out the plumbing layout and bring it the last 10' to the pool equipment pad and glue everything up. Will post a pic later today.

I am looking for an electric rebar bender to rent. I tested out bending some rebar on my own with the manual tools, and I guess I am just a wimp, it was very hard to do. Also cutting the rebar with bolt cutters is out, I am definitely not he-man enough for that. I have a cut-off saw and side grinder that I think will do the job nicely.
 
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Got a bit of un-glamorous stuff done today. The drainage sump has been seeing alot of action with all the rain, so I moved its priority up for completion. It had filled up about a foot and a half with mud, so I had to get that out and get it back down to its intended depth. I initially tried to shovel it out, but that was just an exercise in frustration (every tried to shovel pudding out of a hole?), so I thought a bit, and decided to take advantage of its flowability, and just got in there with a hose and a pump, and pumped the mud out. Took awhile, but it worked with much less effort on my part. Then I bent the rebar for the slab in the bottom, installed it (not fun, the ground all around the hole was very very soft and fluffy, I sank to my ankles) and then poured a 6" slab in the bottom of the hole. Pic:

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Finishing it from above was difficult at best, I essentially used a long pole and a concrete puller and "patted" it level and left it at that. After it sets up tonight, tomorrow I will begin building a cinderblock wall up around it to contain the water, then backfill. I still havent firmed up how I will cover the sump, I am thinking I will pour another slab across the top (I need to learn how to pour a suspended slab now) and leave an access hatch for cleaning out the sump and servicing the pump.

The whole shebang is designed to handle a sustained 2" per hour rainfall. We shall see how it works out, if it cant keep up I will have to upgrade the piping out to the street and the pump I will put in there.
 
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oh and I also drained the pool. its a freaking mess, theres lots of mud in the bottom that I need to shovel out before I can rebar the pool.

Todays slab laying also gave me a chance to try out a rebar bender I bought from Harbor Freight ($85 on sale) that works pretty well, you really just have to pay attention to keeping the bends in the same plane. Another person for that would help tremendously just to hold the bar.
 
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and a follow up on the nail through the hand... healed up nicely. almost finished with the antibiotics. I am going to go talk to a PT practitioner to get some exercises to restore the mobility in my ring finger, the tendons seem to have tightened up a bit from disuse, and have trouble straightening it out.

I wish I had thought to take a picture of the nail through the hand, it was quite a startling sight! But it really didnt hurt at all, and my wife pulled it out within a minute or two once we determined that there was no bone involvement.
 
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Finished laying in the cinderblock. Still have to fill the gaps with mortar. Will leave the gaps on the bottom row to facilitate drainage of the leavings in the pit after pump out.

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I also plan to fill the blocks with concrete to further stabilize things.
 

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Arrrrgh! A garden hose left pressurized burst yesterday an ran for about 5000 gallons worth before being noticed. Bottom of pool filled back up and quite a bit of erosion took place. More dirt to get out of pool bottom. I have got to get this pool rebarred and shot so I can stop worrying about this Crud.
 
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Today I worked on plumbing some more. The last plumbing update showed alot of the plumbing laid out, but none of it was glued together. Today I fixed that. 80% of plumbing outside the pool done, and glued together. All I lack is the return on the other side of the pool, the skimmer on the other side, and the deck jet loop on the other side. I brought all except these to the equipment pad and put in 5' uprights for tying it all together for testing.

I grouped the piping in a couple of ways.

1. spa jet piping is all together on one end of the pad.
2. The rest of the piping I grouped according to suction or pressure. Because of this I had some crossing of pipes as I got closer to the pad, and I just dug down about 6" and looped the suction under the pressure piping that was in the way. It may have been simpler to loop the pressure pipes, as they are fewer than the suction, but I wanted as straight a shot as I could get on the return path to the pool. Have a look at the pics.

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The plan for the rest of the weekend is to finish the plumbing and the last board of the framing tomorrow, and start pulling all the washed in dirt out of the pool sat and sun.

I tried to reach out through some friends and find a hydro-excavator to come in and get the dirt out, but that seems to have fallen through. Bummer, I am tired of shoveling dirt around . Very tired of it. Looks like I have 3-4 yards to extract from the pool bottom by hand.

Lets pray I can get steel in and the thing shot before another gully-washing rain comes along and dumps more dirt in there.
 
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Another plumbing day.

Finished bringing the other side of the pool piping over to the equipment pad.

Plumbed in the auto-leveler, mounted in place.

Plumbed in irrigation water to the existing and future flower beds in pool area.

Mounted and plumbed in the 2nd skimmer.

plumbed up the pad for pressure testing.

I made sure to label and double check the piping at the equipment pad b/c soon all those pipes on the ground will be covered.

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Sunday I didnt do anything productive. I wanted to get in and start getting the dirt/mud out that has washed into the pool, but after about 10 shovels full of sticky, gluey muck I decided to not do it that way, I will hire out a vac truck to come in and suck it out. I can also get a trench from the back yard to the front curb done at the same time much more neatly than I can do it.

So I took the day off.

Today I decided to start bending rebar for the spa. The rebar bender I got from harbor freight is a godsend. for $85 and some concrete anchors I can bend rebar very very easily up to #8.

I have attached some pics of bending in progress.

After a half day of this we are going to hang out at some friends house for the 4th and enjoy the day. Happy Birthday America!

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DBfan187 said:
come on bro, do it like the pros and use your hands & feet, and maybe a hickey bar or 2 lol
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Dude, you see those puny guns I got? I tried a pair of hickey benders... I suck. This way maybe my pool won't suck. For the price of a good pair of hickey benders I got a much better tool.
 
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Vac truck fell through for today, but after a couple of phone calls I got some day laborers who came and knocked it out in half a day. Also spread the rest of my gravel.

I was introduced to "Florida Water" which is essentially an alcohol based perfume/toilet water, added to an iced down cooler... soak towels and use to cool off... an amazing refresher! I thank my new Guatemalan (??sp??) friends for showing me this. Evidently I pay well because all three were asking to come back and work some more. These guys were digging MACHINES. very conscientious, cleaned up worksite better than a pool contractor ever did at the end of the day! (or me for that matter!)
 
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DBfan187 said:
come on bro, do it like the pros and use your hands & feet, and maybe a hickey bar or 2 lol
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And just to satisfy you, bending the longer pieces of rebar, hickey benders, feet, and hands, and the ground were ALL involved! LOL :goodjob: :cheers:

EDIT: and the trailer hitch on my expedition!
 
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So rebar weekend 1 is in the books.

I am doing it completely by myself so its going pretty slow. Its also freaking HOT. Thermometer pegged 95-98 most of the day with high humidity, so frequent breaks to cool off were the order of the day. I would have made more progress, but I had to do some more shaping on the stairs after runoff from my hose accident messed them up dumping a yard or so of dirt across them.

Here is a pic of this weekends progress:

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