Is this Algae?

Okoth

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Jun 3, 2020
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Indonesia
Pool Size
53000
Surface
Vinyl
Chlorine
Liquid Chlorine
It doesn't matter how high or low the pH or Cl are I get these patches of yellow in the pool, they're about 12". Always at the same 4-5 places. Definitely after shocking the pool. I thought it could be algae but now I'm more going toward leaves residue. At the moment there are many leaves falling since we approach the dry season in Indonesia. This yellow stuff can be vacuumed away easily. I don't need a brush. Most of the time, it will be there again after vacuuming and brushing the pool the previous day. I can't believe it's algae. Very sometimes I have some very small patches of green algae at the walls of the pool, but those are spots where I didn't brush well enough. And I see the difference between the two of them. The yellow patches are only at the bottom. And the water itself is clear. Does someone have any ideas?

Second question is about the chlorine. You have to bare with me, here in Indonesia I can't get any proper testing kit and hardly any chemicals. This is what I have
- 20g and 200g TCCA tablets for shocking and maintenance
- Soda ash
- Sodium bisulfate
- OTO chlorine liquid with a level between 0.3 - 3
- digital pH meter
- useless testing strips for FC, TC, TA, Hardness, CYA

And that is really all I can get. No chemicals to raise the CYA, nothing to change the alkalinity of the water. Cannot get it. Better testing kit, I ordered it from Europe and it's waiting for me to be picked up but I'm waiting for the travel restrictions to go away. Test kits are on Amazon, but they won't send it to Indonesia. Great huh? So, basically most I can do is guessing and I don't like it at all. Also the pool seller is not much of a help when it comes to advise. Usually the Cl and pH fine and algae grows. Their only advise is to shock the pool or lower the pH to 4.5. That's it.

The pool is 53.000 L. Built in Nov 2019. pH is 6.8 (had to put it lower because of the algae), Cl is around 2. So far it works for me. When the pool has a pH of 7.2 and higher algae grows quite fast. When I shock the pool it takes more than a week for the chlorine to go down below 3 (according to OTO). I shocked the pool last Friday and the chlorine is at least above 5, but I can't measure it. And during the time of high chlorine (including high FC (test strips)) algae still grows. I can't measure it, but I would say the CYA is high, but the test strips won't give a reliable result. I don't know how high it is. When the water is a bit murky the other day, I drained 40cm of the pool water and it's cleared up within a day. The water became crystal clear. I have the idea that after I shock the pool or if the Cl is more than 3, the Cl gets locked because algae starts growing. The pool is in the hot sun 12 months a year. Pump is on 11 hours a day.

I've been thinking about draining all the water and get fresh spring water. Start all over again with 0 CYA. The CYA in my case can only come from the weekly TCCA tablets and from shocking the pool once a month.

I know it's hard to give an answer to this, but this is my situation. When you read this info, what do you think about the chlorine? Could the CYA be too high? Or what could be another reason the chlorine won't come down fast, even we have hot sun every day.
 

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I feel for you but without a proper test kit there isn't a good answer. Too little or too much CYA won't help your situation. You don't know what the pool levels are at with test strips as they're very unreliable.
 
I also wouldn't keep the pH that low. It makes the water corrosive and you could end up with more problems later. The pH is not the cause of your algae, so let the pH remain in the ideal 7.2 - 7.8 range. If you are stuck with dry acid, I guess that's all you can do, but liquid muriatic acid would be better when needed. As for the chlorine, well, you definitely need more of it to permanently kill the algae. As you already noted, some of what you are doing is a guessing game. Not how you would like to handle this I'm sure. Hang in there.

 
At the moment, The pool looks quite okay. The yellow patches are gone and they have made place for the green ones, which I am quite happy with right now because they are easy to get rid of. I tested the Cl and pH after a week and I was very surprised that the Cl was 0 and the pH was 4.5. I will fix it and have to test more often...

I'm going to see if I can get liquid muriatic acid. I dissolve the dry acid in a bucket of water first before I add it to the pool. Best I can do at the moment.

About the yellow patches, I noticed that when leaves are at the side of the pool and the tiles are wet, there are yellow/brown spots below the leaves. I'm now thinking that the yellow patches are actually coming from the leaves, but I need to do more research on that.

Sorry for late reply. The emails from TFP went into the spam folder...
 
I know I mentioned it earlier, and you have limitations in your location, but be VERY careful about your chemicals and relying on those test strips. They are extremely inaccurate. I'm not so sure the pH is actually 4.5. That would be quite uncomfortable and you would probably see signs of corrosion. Maybe you can get a simply drop test kit sent from Walmart or something just for the pH and TA? I don't know your mailing restrictions, but you definitely need something better. Tough spot. Good luck!
 
The only thing I'm confident about are the pH testing results because I use a Bluelab pH meter Bluelab Combo Meter. Very happy with that. :)

I could try and order a testkit from Wallmart instead of Amazon. No high hopes and I will have to pay 300-400% import taxes or it will be completely rejected, but I can try. Alternatively I can see if they have anything in Singapore or Australia. Thanks
 
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Ooooops. I think I visited that site before. They write: "Currently, we are only shipping internationally to New Zealand. "

I can still try and ask but it's hard to ship to Indonesia...
 

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good luck maybe a traveler can bring it eventually if shipping isn't available (hope not illegal)
Thanks. Yes I'm waiting for someone to come here. I don't think it's illegal. The customs probably don't want the hassle of testing the tablets. Maybe they tossed them out instead in the past. I would surely care the stuff with me when I would travel and come back here.

I've emailed them anyway. Maybe they want to try. I don't care if I have to pay $300 for a test kit.
 
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