Is an Enzyme Product Worth It?

Gebo

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With 2 weeks experience but I seem to be doing good with my chlorine and ahhsome set up. Several of my friends say I should be using this or that Enzyme Product. Would I just be wasting my money
or is it a kind of added insurance?
 
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My personal opinion, I would not use enzymes. I've been using the TFP methods for the past four pool seasons, and I haven't used any enzymes and I always get compliments about the clarity of my pool.

Sticking to the TFP methods and abandon pool store methods and you will find it's easier, cheaper and you will get great results.
 
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Not sure about it containing enzymes (don’t think it does)
but ahhsome does make a weekly product called aqua clarity that helps reduce biofilms. Its like a tiny dose of Ahhsome in the tub working all the time. There’s a little more to it than just being watered down ahhsome. @Ahhsomeguy can explain it in more detail.
For my small 250 gal tub the concentrated container will make enough to treat my tub weekly for 2+ years so it is inexpensive enough to try along with not being a mystery product as I don’t appreciate mysteries when it comes to water care. There’s a post around here about all its ingredients & why I just can’t find it at the moment.
I mostly use it as a helper because of my greasy hard working husband lol 😂
My purges now always come out clean so it is obviously mitigating any buildup.
I have never had the need for any dedicated enzyme products- adequate sanitation has always been enough to keep my water great. The aqua clarity is more about the biofilms for me.
 
I am currently using Ahhsome Clarity and chlorine. My friends are screwing with my head. LOL
I’d also question whether the enzymes actually did anything if there’s sanitizer (chlorine) in the water? I haven’t used enzymes in my pool, but we have tried it for unclogging sinks and toilets in the past and it’s never made any difference at all.
 
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Mdragger88, have I lost my mind? I swear I saw a blue and purple CYA level chart here somewhere just a few days ago, but now I can't find it.
Maybe it is on another website....
 

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In a hot tub … enzymes probably won’t do much especially with chlorine around to destroy the enzymes (they are pH, temperature, and oxidizer sensitive organic macromolecules). Maybe as a soak for filter cartridges and used like how dishwasher detergents use enzymes, that might work. But in an actively sanitized tub … I’d say it’s just a waste of money.
 
A biochemist/microbiologist here. The enzyme pool and spa products are all BS and a waste of money, especially in a hot tub. In general, enzymes are very substrate specific and also generally only work well on their substrate under a narrow range of conditions. This is how they work in living things and on and industrial scale for specific enzymatic activities. None of these pool and spa enzymes products give these specifics. Snake oil hype.

The Ahhsome Clarity stuff is just another benzalkonium chloride (BAC) antiseptic product like Wet n Forget it and other disinfectants medical and industrial applications, supposedly with proprietary snake oil magic stuff in it. I use their other Ahhhsome gel stuff to purge clean my hot tub, dishwasher, clothes washer etc and it does work well in that application. It’s way over priced for what it is but it works well in those applications. Against my better judgement and because I do really like their Ahhsome gel products, I did try the Ahhsome Clarity product in my hot tub as an additive for a while (3 mos). I didn’t like it and it didn’t really seem to make a difference other than adding foaminess and skin itchiness and additional smell. There is also a general concern in the field that the prevalent use of BACs in the environment has contributed to bacterial drug resistance by a variety of mechanisms (efflux pumps and cell membrane modifications). So the only place where I use my remaining Ahhsome Clarity stuff is in a standpipe for my pool autolevel where chlorine doesn‘t circulate well and in my AC condensate line here in Florida. Maybe there is some modest minor benefit if you aren’t monitoring and balancing or using the hot tub much, or using it with more people a lot and aren’t sensitive to the product …. but I won’t be buying that expensive hyped product for those purposes.

So for other than hot tub purging, I only use chlorine, dichlor, MPS shock, Trichlor float if we aren’t around Muriatic acid, Baking Soda for balancing and maintaining the hot tub. SWG and the usual stuff for the pool. I do use and like Boric Acid in my tub and pool because it seems that it reduces skin irritation for me and its safely used even as an eyewash. Its antiseptic properties at levels used 40-60 ppm are probably not relevant in a properly chlorinated or brominated pool but it also has some buffering activity. Not necessary though.

When I got the hot tub new they provided a bunch of Frog System stuff. It sucked and I felt like I had to change the water more often and got way more gunk when I purged than I do with the basic stuff.
 
ckendalls,
Do you only use MPS to shock? If so, why?

LOL, it is my responsibility to keep the bathrooms clean in the house. That Wet n Forget is good stuff. Especially in my nasty shower! I go bare footed a lot....

I do have some Boric Acid coming from Duda Energy.
 
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Yes only MPS as a non chlorine shock (Potassium Peroxymonosulfate) every once in a while depending on how much use. Not instead of chlorine disinfectant. I basically follow this Spa & Hot Tub Maintenance A Basic Guide overall but the MPS oxidizer shock seems to “freshen” things up nicely.

Yep I use Wet n Forget it for my pool deck sometimes. Nothing magic. I wish I hadn't used pavers for the pool.
 
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Good fair questionn and there is some debate on why use MPS at all especially if you regularly sanitize or SLAM with some form of chlorine. I mainly use dichlor until my CYA stabilizer levels get above 30-50 then mainly bleach from a shot dispenser bottle to maintain or after use. If we are gone for an extended period I use small Trichlor tabs in a small floater. BUT if combined chlorine (CC) levels get higher or after more use I will also use MPS shock as an oxidizer while maintaining normal Fc levels after that. You could use more chlorine, but for me MPS really seems to clear up the chloramine smell and freshen up the water better (no chlorine smell) in the water or body after use. Like after a fresh water change which I do at least every 3 months or so regardless. I probably don’t use MPS more than once a week (usually less) unless bather load is high like around holidays with visitors. But not instead of maintaining disinfecting levels of chlorine. MPS also seems to clear up the water faster after heavy use. But its optional.

Here is some older post and explains. Others may weigh in with a better explanation.


 
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Is there any reason to SLAM a spa? My spa is separate from the pool, it is a Jacuzzi tub that is covered unless being used so it has no CYA. As long as I keep the FC level in a proper range and the water remains clear is there any reason to SLAM? I use a drape over SWCG for sanitizing and keep the FC around 2-3. I drain the water about 3-4 times per year.

Bather load is two people with 2x15 minutes soaks per week. So an average of 1 bather hour per week if you want to put it that way.
 
Is there any reason to SLAM a spa? My spa is separate from the pool, it is a Jacuzzi tub that is covered unless being used so it has no CYA. As long as I keep the FC level in a proper range and the water remains clear is there any reason to SLAM? I use a drape over SWCG for sanitizing and keep the FC around 2-3. I drain the water about 3-4 times per year.

Bather load is two people with 2x15 minutes soaks per week. So an average of 1 bather hour per week if you want to put it that way.

No need to SLAM. Just keep the FC in range and make sure that you are adding chlorine after soaking to deal with bather waste. Make sure the cover opens up a few times in between soaks and afterwards so the combined chlorine compounds have a chance to off-gas. A tub that is constantly covered and never allowed to see fresh air is an unhappy tub ...
 
I don't generally add liquid chlorine after bathing, but I will hit the boost on the SWCG that runs an extra cycle of chlorine generation. Since I switched from bromine to SWCG the water is clearer, and has less to no odour, compared to smelling like bromine. If for some reason the FC has gotten really low then I will add in some liquid chlorine.
 

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