Introduce Myself- Biodad

[Biodad]

I am not a dad. I am 71 years young and swim 4 to 8 blocks a day in Minnesota lakes but now the lakes are too cold. I bought the Intex 9.10 foot x 7 foot x 29 inch pool and am putting it in my basement. Silly? I dunno? I boxed it in with 2 inch polystyrine for cushion then 3/8 inch plywood. I have a 2 x 4 frame around all that. I slammed in a corner and bolted together on the open sides with the 2 x 4's. Poly is also under the pool as well as bed liner.

I will need a heater. I'm seeing that the heaters fail often. Seeing $200 - $400 might do the trick. Not sure what to get. In the local lakes, I quit swimming when they hit 65 degrees. I can be comfortable at 67 or 68 degrees so my 1000 gallon pool only needs to be that hot. I'm wondering if a 500 gallon heater will be enough? I have a circulation pump that new was $140 or so but Wal Mart was selling it new for around $45. Not sure how to hook all this up but I'll figure it. Local electrician is going to wire the heater into the box so it is all code and correct.

I'm using a bunji cord harness that will allow me to swim forward 3 or 4 feet and it will pull me back. I just want to do 20 minute sessions a couple times a day. I've lost 35 pounds this summer and I eat 80% veggies and fruits. Stir Fry is my friend. Chicken and fresh fish, steak, pork, and burger. No bread or cereal, sugars and empty carbs. Swimming is king.

I will run a dehumidifyer in the room as the furnace is there too. I will use a sump pump to pump the pool out into my yard which is huge and rural. I will put a cover over it when not in use. I will run the dehumidifyer on a timer every 5 hours on / off but may vary that.

Anyone see anything wrong with this? I guess my introduction serves as my questions. Appreciate any suggestions and if I need to move my comment/questions to a different topical catagory, let me know.

 

[mknauss]

Welcome to the forum!
You might consider a tankless water heater. NOT pool certified, but in your situation, might be something to consider. Search the forum, a member has used one with success.
Also, consider covering the pool with a solar cover. This will reduce evaporation.
I suggest you read through Pool Care Basics - Trouble Free Pool and even look at a few of our videos TFP-TV - Trouble Free Pool

 

[Biodad]

Thank you mknauss. I will look into a tankless heater. I've read bad reviews on this company -

Mxmoonant USA​

I've got a lot to learn. I need to decide soon as the electrician will be here in 8 or 9 days to hook
whatever I use for a heater up to the power

 

[JoyfulNoise]

Is the heating in the home forced air or hydronic heating?

If hydronic, there are heat exchangers that can be installed on the heater to grab heat from the hydronic system and send it to the pool. You don’t need much heat and once the water reaches your desired temp you are going to want to keep it there as long as you can.

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[mknauss]

I would look at a typical residential tankless heater. If using electric, do not even need a vent to outside. Will need a pressure relief line to outside.

Cheaper ones are sold through big box stores. Quality ones, like Noritz, typically can only be purchased through plumbing supply houses.

 

[Biodad]

It was suggested that I mention what I have. I bought the

Intex 9.8' x 79" x 29.5" Rectangular Frame Above Ground Outdoor Backyard Swimming Pool​

I will use a bunji harness and do 20 minute swims twice a day
I bought a Flowclear 1500 gal. Above-Ground Pool Pump
I need a heater to heat the approx 1000 gallon pool to around 67 or 68 degrees.
It was suggested that I buy a heater for a cattle throft since they are built good unlike the pool heaters
I'm reading about. Mine will be inside, run only in the winter and with a dehumidifier so it might last a bit.
Pool is in my basement by the forced air gas furnace.
I will use a sump pump to drain the pool outside in my rural yard

How about this thing - Mxmoonant Pool Heater 9KW 220V, Electric Swimming Pool Heaters Hot Tub Water Thermostat with Touchscreeen
I'll be watching the videos on this site and reading posts. Any heater advise welcome

 

[Biodad]

Mt mknauss, or anyone else, would you know what size of on demand heater I'd need.
I can swim 68 degrees or so.
1000 gallon basement pool. Warm down there. I need to finish filling it and check the temp.
I need a good filter to go along with my - Flowclear 1500 gal. Above-Ground Pool Pump, right?
I like the on demand idea but am thinking the kitchen and shower ones might be too small and the large ones too large?
Not sure how small I can go.

 

[mknauss]

What kind of power do you have available? 50 amp, 100 amp, 240V, etc.
A larger BTU will run less. As you would need to run the pump with it, that matters.
Covering the water when not in use will be critical.
The entire area must be able to handle water. Taking the cover off will be wet. Cleaning the filter will be wet. Etc.
Filter is not really of much concern. Inside, nothing should fall in the pool. A small cartridge of some sort would make sense.

 

[Biodad]

Greetings

I have a 1000 gallon pool in my basement and I need a filter.

I bought a Flowclear 1500 gal. Above-Ground Pool Pump
Not sure if that was wise as it was around $140 new and they were selling it new for around $47.
It can still be returned if need be as it is unopened.

I presume the filter will go from the pool and into the Pool Pump.
Then the Pool Pump shoots the clean water back into the pool.
I may not need a heater. I will finish filling the pool and buy a thermometer and see what the temp is.

I just need advice on what filter to buy.
I appreciate any advice

 

[mknauss]

That system normally has a very small integrated cartridge filter with it. Check what you have.

 

[ajw22]

It was suggested that I buy a heater for a cattle throft since they are built good unlike the pool heaters
I'm reading about. Mine will be inside, run only in the winter and with a dehumidifier so it might last a bit.
Pool is in my basement by the forced air gas furnace.
I will use a sump pump to drain the pool outside in my rural yard

Water and electricity do not mix.

The NEC has very specific requirements for equipment used in and within 5 feet of a pool.

It is not clear to me that the equipment you are discussing and the way you are hooking things up will be safe.

 

[phonedave]

It was suggested that I mention what I have. I bought the

Intex 9.8' x 79" x 29.5" Rectangular Frame Above Ground Outdoor Backyard Swimming Pool​

I will use a bunji harness and do 20 minute swims twice a day
I bought a Flowclear 1500 gal. Above-Ground Pool Pump
I need a heater to heat the approx 1000 gallon pool to around 67 or 68 degrees.
It was suggested that I buy a heater for a cattle throft since they are built good unlike the pool heaters
I'm reading about. Mine will be inside, run only in the winter and with a dehumidifier so it might last a bit.
Pool is in my basement by the forced air gas furnace.
I will use a sump pump to drain the pool outside in my rural yard

How about this thing - Mxmoonant Pool Heater 9KW 220V, Electric Swimming Pool Heaters Hot Tub Water Thermostat with Touchscreeen
I'll be watching the videos on this site and reading posts. Any heater advise welcome

So you have gas heat. I would look into a gas on demand heater. You would not need a very large one. Yes, you are heating a lot of water, but once you have it heated, you are just maintaining the temperature. It also sounds like you are fine with your pool being around 68 - 70 F. If that is the temperature of your air, then eventually things are going to equalize and you should not be loosing much heat at all. I would NOT put an immersion coil (cattle trough heater) into my pool. That is just beyond dangerous.

On your set up, I would consider having my heater and my filtration system as two separate things.

One thing to think about if you decide to use something other than a purpose designed pool heater is what sort of controls you will put into place. Do you want this thing automated, to keep the pool at a set temperature. Or are you thinking you just turn it on every so often when you need to. With an on demand, you could have a separate pump on a manual timer, much like a hot tub timer. You trigger the timer, the small pump (NOT a pool pump, you need something like a hydronic heat pump) comes one, the flow sensor in the on demand heater triggers the heater, and then the system runs for the time one the timer. When the timer turns off, the whole thing stops. This prevents you from starting the system, walking away, forgetting about it, and your pool running up to 110 F (or whatever the set point is on your domestic one demand heater).

As others have said here, safety is key. There are rules and codes for setting up pools. Having it indoor does not make them any less important. In fact there are likely some additional things you need to look at (like overhead lighting for one thing)