In desperate need of help please.

OTF said:
OK I think 21 sounds like it could be right. I know my brush goes jsut about to the middle of the pool. I measured that and its 10 feet. SO I think 21 sounds jsut about right. Its just me and my dog. I could TRY to get her to hold the tape measure but I can just see her taking off with it in my hand and her mouth and me getting dumped in the pool. LOL

Yes they TOOK the ladder. Actually they took jsut about everything they could get their hands on. The only thing left were some old chemicals and clorine containers.

I went to the store today and got some clorox ultra and some borax. I got home and the pool looked probably twice as clear as it was yesterday. I could still see sediment on the bottom but there was alot less of it and it was a lot easier to see the bottom. But I DID add 3 gal of chlorine last night along with some clearifier. I jsut tested it again now and am getting...

Hardness= 200
Free Clorine= 10
PH = 7.2
Total Alk= 240
CYA= 0

SO now what should I do first?

Is this the strips or did you get the HTH 6-way kit?

Lets assume your pool is 21 ft , 4ft deep the pool calc says it is 10,400 gallons. So Update your signature again....making those changes.

I entered in the pool calc your gallons and it says to add approx 2 lbs of stabilizer to bring your CYA up to 30. I would target that amount for now, you can always raise it later, you don't want to overshoot. Pour the CYA into your skimmer and it will dissolve in your filter for the next week. Don't hose of your filter for at least 4 or 5 days, it will dissolve there slowly and won't fully register on tests for up to a week. Next Monday or so you can test the CYA again to see where you're at.

Because you have no CYA, your current FC reading of 10 is fine for shock level. Until you get CYA, just keep 10 as your shock number. 3 gallons may be a bit much at this point....I would start now calculating carefully your dosages so you don't overchlorinate the pool.

Test your FC before adding chlorine, take that result enter it in the pool calc in the "now" column, then enter 10 in the "goal" column and it will tell you how much bleach to add each time. Once you get CYA you will need to raise your chlorine according to the CYA chlorine chart, see the link in my sig. Those are your targets for minimum, target and shock levels.

You need to keep shocking your pool until

Your water is sparkly clear
your FC holds overnight, losing 1ppm or less
your CC is .5 or less.

Once you are done shocking you will be able to let the FC drop to your "target" for CYA level, don't ever let it go below the "minimum" or algae will take hold again.

Keep brushing daily and running the filter 24/7 until it clears. After you have cleared it, it may be a good idea to give that cartridge a good soaking.

I'd keep an eye on your PH. When your FC is lower than 5 can you restest it before adding bleach? High FC levels can raise the ph and make test results inaccurate. I'm wondering if your PH is still low and you'll need to add Borax to raise it up some more.

Once your water is clear and your CYA is in the 30-50 range, you can begin tackling your TA, which is too high. But that's not critical right now so one thing at a time right?! :wink:

I hope this made sense?
 
Yes it did make sense. But Im confused. LOL The CYA...you said put it in the skimmer. I understand that. But now what is CYA? I thaught thats what the clorox was for? To get that up? Or am I even more confused now? LOL I did get borax. WHich should I put in first?
 
You should get some CYA in your pool. CYA is sold at Lowes , Home Depot (we got ours there) its call Stabilizer. When you add your CYA to your pool put it in a sock and put the sock in your skimmer basket. You want to shoot for a CYA between 30 -50. According to the calculator you should add 70 oz by weight.

Putting stabilizer or CYA in your pool will help prevent the sunlight from eating up your FC levels. You also want to start shocking your pool 16 each night until there is NO FC loss during the night time hours and no CC. Since you are adding stabilizer to your water you wont be able to clean and rinse your filter. Just brush it good several times a day.

Recheck your CYA levels in a week.
 
OOOH Ok now I got it. So I look for stabalizer OR CYA. I gottcha now. Thanks. I will have to make a trip to home depot or the pool store my next day off.

Thank you all SOOO much. You all have no idea how much your all helping me. Before long this wont even seem like a 2nd language to me. LOL
 
Hi OTF,

As Tiz said, CYA is also called stabalizer or conditioner and is used to protect your chlorine from sunlight. If you are still backwashing your filter clearing your pool, the sock method is better for you to introduce the CYA to your pool. With the CYA in the sock you are still able to backwash your filter without loosing CYA.

Your shock level is 10 (with 0 CYA). You need to maintain shock levels until you meet the three criteria listed in FPM's post above.

Again, the best investment you can make in your pool is a good test kit. Most of us recommend the TF Test kit sold by duraieigh, one of our members. Link on home page and in my sig. It will allow you to take control over your pool.

Welcome to the forum.

ETA: Looks like three or four of us were typing at about the same time here!
 
Just to clear up an earlier post I made here. With a CYA level of "0" your shock level for chlorine is 10. You need to get some CYA in your water with a target of 30- 50 ppm. Once your CYA reaches 30 -50 you need to bring you shock level of FC up to 16ppm and then and maintain that until the criteria is met mentioned in FPM's earlier post in this same thread.
 
OTF said:
Yes they TOOK the ladder. Actually they took jsut about everything they could get their hands on. The only thing left were some old chemicals and clorine containers.

That sounds like Utica people. I live in Marcy. :lol:


On a side note, you might want to think about getting a spare cartridge for your filter sometime. Hopefully your neighbor used the low setting on his power washer when he washed the filter. Also, North Utica WalMart has 10% pool chlorine; 2 gals for $6.50. You can also pick-up your stabilizer there. Riverside Pools has the 12% chlorine; 5 gals for $13.99. That's on River Road in Marcy; just down the street from WalMart.
 

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Is riverside pools the one by sunrise building supply? Thats where I was going. Originally I went there to get clorine and can you belive they didnt have any???? I was like how in the world does a pool store not have clorine? So they sold me shock. Ive gone back a few times, even bringing in water samples. And every time I go in all they recomend is shock. I know I need shock but I know I need more than that. LOL Anyway... I actually live out in the middle of nothing. Litterally...So to get there is a 25 min drive. I try to go into the city once a week to go shopping. There is however a store close by me that actually sells clorine. Ive been getting 3 gal. for $8. 3 is about all I can lift. So it works out good for me.

So anyway bottom line is I cant do much more than Im doing right now until I get the stabalizer then right?
 
OTF said:
There is however a store close by me that actually sells clorine. Ive been getting 3 gal. for $8. 3 is about all I can lift.


The chlorine that you are buying, what is the % of chlorine?

Riverside's chlorine is 12.5%. The chlorine at WalMart for pools is 10%. Bleach is about 6%. You will need to know when you use the Pool Calculator.

Yea, Riverside Pools runs out of chlorine once in awhile. Alot of people are buying it instead of BioGuard and the stuff sold at WalMart. They are great at pushing shock, Balance Pak 200, Balance Pak 300 and their stabilizer. Their SparkleUp is $26.96 for a container.
 
We buy our bleach at Walmart. Today I stopped in and bought 8 96 oz jugs for $1.28 each and that will be my chlorine for the next week or so. Shock is WAY more expensive than that at the PS. Its been so long since we bought shock from the PS I forget how much it is.

I tried to use dollar store bleach and ran into trouble with it. Had a slight algae bloom so be careful doing that
 
OK I looked and my chlorine was 12% so 6 gal of the ultra bleech would be 1 of my 3 gal. chlorine. SO its actually a little cheaper to do the bleach plus its a whole lot easier for me to handle. The 3 gallons is quite heavy for me. I know I cant even think about lifting a 5 gallon bucket. LOL
 
ooooh Kay...First off I got help to measure and the pool is 24 Foot. 4 foot deep.

I got the stabalizer finally. I put it in Monday night and all my #'s have been holding tight.

Hardness= 200
Free Clorine= 7
PH = 7.5
Total Alk= 180
CYA= 30-50

AND the BEST news...guess what???? I can see the bottom today!!!!!!! WOOO. Its a little bit cloudy but its not milky like it was. I think its more of a normal kind of cloudyness now. There were patches where Crud is settling and I got the vaccum out and got alot of that sucked up. Im sure I stired some up as well so I will have to do that again every day for the next few days Im guessing.

I know I have to get the ALK down a little but I dont think thats going to be a huge deal.

Oh and just because if ya'll could have had a video camera... you would all have gotten a kick out of this one. I rememberd someone here saying to put the stabalizer in a sock and put it in the pool to disperse. SO I get an old sock. Put one of the large capfulls in it and fling it to the middle of the pool...where it promptly went right to the bottom. LOL I jsut froze. I was like "Ut oh. Now what do I do?" I coudlnt see the bottom to find where it was. And I knew I couldnt put the vaccum on till I got it out cause I didnt want to clog it up. LOL I was out there for probably an hour and a half trying to feel it with the net. I had no luck. Finally yesterday after work the sun hit on it just right and I was able to find it. But Im sure it was pretty comical watching me panic over that stupid sock.

So anyway...now what do I do? Just keep doing what Im doing and putting clearifyer in?
 

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