I am in the direct path of Hurricane Florence in Eastern and need advice

Oct 21, 2016
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Greenville/NC
(Eastern NC in Pamlico Sound area). I am trying to decide if I should put my safety cover on during the storm. Our neighborhood has a construction site along the line of homes in the back of the subdivision which has all been dug up and in process of being graded. Its about 23 acres of loose dirt. My pool is only about 60 feet away. My fear is that that all that dirt will end up filling up my pool with mud if I don't cover it. But I have also heard its not a good idea to put the safety cover on in Hurricanes. I've done it before in a 75 mph hurricane, but these gusts could be much greater.

So I'm looking for advice what to do. Thanks.
 
My gut says no. The reason being if the wind were to get under it it could rip it out of the keepers or pull the keepers up/out of the concrete. I think you could clear the pool cheaper/easier than you having to replace parts for the cover. Now this is just my gut but it has served me well in the past.

Personal safety is the most important thing but here are some ideas for keeping your pool and yard safer IF you are able to do it safely:

Here is something one of our guides (suzfromTX) wrote after she had to deal with Harvey in TX.

"Precautions and Procedures during heavy floods

When the rain is coming down multiple inches by the hour, an overflow drain may not maintain the pool water level. For some people that could mean water coming into the back of the house.

Appropriate water level in the pool:
Normal circumstances: halfway up the skimmer, give or take an inch or so.
Torrential rains: WITH an overflow drain, keep watch on the rate of rainfall and water level rise. Often the overflow drain will keep up. If the water is lapping under the coping and is not holding, get busy preparing for another way to drain water from the pool.
WITHOUT an overflow drain, don’t wait until the water level is lapping the coping.
It’s an individual call on when to act. Experience with your pool and with your area’s downpours makes it an easier decision.


1. hose bib/spigot to drain water from the pool: Open up the spigot between the filter and main pump. If that's an unwise place to drain, see #3. Respect your neighbors and drain away from their property. If you need to drain faster to keep up with rain fall, attach hoses to each spigot from other pumps you may have.

2. Important***** pump must be on: with my equipment, we kept the pump on high to get the greatest flow out of the hose. When the pump was on low, it was very low flow out of the hose. Use the speed that gives you a margin of safety from the pool overflowing.

3. where to drain: you can attach your garden hose to the spigot and drain to a better place - driveway, street, etc. In the Hurricane Harvey situations, we could not have used our deck drains to put the hose end (the deck drains that run to the street). Our street was a rushing river, so my logic (correct or not) said that water with no place to go would all back up in the deck drains. Then the rainfall on the deck couldn't drain. I could very likely be wrong about that. We ran the hoses to our long driveway which has a decent slope and no chance of pooling near the house. We didn't help the rushing street river.....

4. swg system: Turn off the salt system. There’s no point using up your cell as your pool water drains down the street. Some systems may allow you to turn it off; others you simply turn the % level down to zero.

5. a bleach pool: don't forget if you have a swg system turned off, you now need to watch the FC level. As others have said, take it up to SLAM level or at least high enough to give you wiggle room for timing of testing (using the band breaks from the storm to get out there and test or simply add more bleach)

6. skimmers: if you're dealing with storms that have bands as with hurricanes or tropical storms, use the break periods from the rain to get the debris out of the skimmers to keep the flow going well.


Alternate Methods to Drain a Pool

1. filters that drain to waste (not cartridge filters): turn valves to waste

2. sump pump: if you have one available and have power, throw that into the pool

3. the old siphon method: "You know, like you used to use when you stole gas from your neighbor's car...
Fill a garden hose with water and then put one end of a garden hose in the pool and the other end down hill somewhere.."

For Solar panels:
1) Fill up the solar roof heater. There are cutoff valves on the send and return lines from the panels, so I’m going to (very quickly so pump isn’t dead headed for more than a second) close the return line then the send so if wind was to get under the panels they at least have weight. (If you do not have these cut offs that is something to look into getting)

Kim :kim:
 
Thanks for your advice and your opinion the safety cover. We are in the projected high wind area so I am going to take your advice about the cover. We may not even be able to stay here during the storm and will make that call by Wednesday morning.
 
Hokie,

First, good luck to you and your n-bors....

Next, I would not put on your cover...you essentially don't need a sail in your back yard w 130MPH winds...also, your cover cost more than your water, plus anything sharp blown onto it could cut it and if someone inadvertently fell on your cover, w or w out slits or holes, that would be really bad...shut off your breaker(S) to pool and bail...again good luck
 
If/when the fill dirt gets mixed into your pool, you can use some power floc to drop it to the bottom and then vacuum it out. We had to do this after Harvey. Took 2 treatments but was much less expensive than draining pool (draining pool wasn’t a good option either with the water table as high as it was). 2nd floc vac post Harvey - YouTube

SO glad you jump in! You, of all of us, knows all about this! THANKS!
 
Thanks, the consensus is no cover I'll go with the wisdom. The update we got tonight sounded better, predicting up to 75 mph gusts for us. I've had those before over the ~30 years we've been here so with that we will stay, and I can manage the water level that way (expecting 10 to15 inches). Appreciate your help!
 
If a safety cover is solid, the rain can come down so fast that a cover pump could not keep up and the cover might rip from too much water. And, that's if you don't lose power. If you do lose power, a cover pump won't work anyway. Dense mesh might not drain fast enough. A solid with a drain panel might not drain fast enough, especially if the drain panel gets clogged from fine debris.

A regular mesh might drain fast enough but is likely to be damaged by wind. A regular mesh might provide some protection for a liner by catching large sticks and big debris.

Overall, it's probably best to leave the cover off.

Ground water can be an issue and might float the liner. Lowering the water makes floating the liner more likely, but you don't want the pool to overflow. So, there are no really good choices.
 

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If a safety cover is solid, the rain can come down so fast that a cover pump could not keep up and the cover might rip from too much water. And, that's if you don't lose power. If you do lose power, a cover pump won't work anyway. Dense mesh might not drain fast enough. A solid with a drain panel might not drain fast enough, especially if the drain panel gets clogged from fine debris.

A regular mesh might drain fast enough but is likely to be damaged by wind. A regular mesh might provide some protection for a liner by catching large sticks and big debris.

Overall, it's probably best to leave the cover off.

Ground water can be an issue and might float the liner. Lowering the water makes floating the liner more likely, but you don't want the pool to overflow. So, there are no really good choices.

With my past experience with hurricanes here 10-15 inches (and ground not saturated before the storm), it hasn't caused the liner to float where we are, and normally I have relied on dropping the water level some. My main concern is if the pool overflows, because if the power goes out I lose my pump and can't pump off the water. So far I've been lucky but sometime I need to have an alternative in place for that problem. (During hurricane Mathew that almost bit me, it was raining fast and the water level was about an inch from the coping when the power came back on!). I have a net I can stretch over the pool to keep the larger debris out.
 
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