Hello All! Forum has been great so far. I figured I'd go ahead and get a post in asking for help/direction on a new pool build as I definitely need it!
We're in Houston and in the floodway, which apparently adds some additional regulations/requirements due to the flooding issues. We're looking for a pool/spa combo. Plan is to have a basketball goal at side opposite the spa (which will get the most use) and a setup for volleyball. Depth to be 3.5' to 5' in a V...shallow at the ends, deep in middle, with a tanning ledge by the spa (play area for little kids). It will get a ton of sunlight so we are a bit concerned about the water being too warm.
My wife wants to go saltwater due to the feel and to avoid skin irritation, and after most of the posts I've seen here, a SWCG seems to be the way to go. PB is recommending against it and has said the UV system reduces the need for as much chlorine, which other posts seem to dispute. So, any advice on what to ask the PB to change in regard to adding a SWCG would be great.
PB said they do 2 pumps as opposed to a variable speed pump. Seems like dedicated pumps for the pool and spa make sense, but I'm not sure if it makes sense to have a variable speed servicing the pool, or if that pump would just be a lower speed pump anyway so a 1 speed would work. I only see 1 pump in the quote but PB said they only do 2 pump systems when there is a pool and spa.
I'm not sold on the automation piece as we won't have water features, but if it helps to manage the SWGC as well, then I'm interested. Just not sure if it's worth the $1k price tag.
What are the feelings on in-floor cleaning systems. We were told that if we get that we wouldn't need a pool cleaner, but that just doesn't seem right, quoted $2500 not included in bid below.
Bid also doesn't include repairing sprinkler system, re-sodding, upgrade to gas line, etc.
Price quoted $70k.
I appreciate any and all input and thanks in advance!
General Construction
We're in Houston and in the floodway, which apparently adds some additional regulations/requirements due to the flooding issues. We're looking for a pool/spa combo. Plan is to have a basketball goal at side opposite the spa (which will get the most use) and a setup for volleyball. Depth to be 3.5' to 5' in a V...shallow at the ends, deep in middle, with a tanning ledge by the spa (play area for little kids). It will get a ton of sunlight so we are a bit concerned about the water being too warm.
My wife wants to go saltwater due to the feel and to avoid skin irritation, and after most of the posts I've seen here, a SWCG seems to be the way to go. PB is recommending against it and has said the UV system reduces the need for as much chlorine, which other posts seem to dispute. So, any advice on what to ask the PB to change in regard to adding a SWCG would be great.
PB said they do 2 pumps as opposed to a variable speed pump. Seems like dedicated pumps for the pool and spa make sense, but I'm not sure if it makes sense to have a variable speed servicing the pool, or if that pump would just be a lower speed pump anyway so a 1 speed would work. I only see 1 pump in the quote but PB said they only do 2 pump systems when there is a pool and spa.
I'm not sold on the automation piece as we won't have water features, but if it helps to manage the SWGC as well, then I'm interested. Just not sure if it's worth the $1k price tag.
What are the feelings on in-floor cleaning systems. We were told that if we get that we wouldn't need a pool cleaner, but that just doesn't seem right, quoted $2500 not included in bid below.
Bid also doesn't include repairing sprinkler system, re-sodding, upgrade to gas line, etc.
Price quoted $70k.
I appreciate any and all input and thanks in advance!
| DIMENSIONS | POOL | SPA | ||
| ||||
| WIDTH | 13.00 | 7.00 | | |
| MAX. LENGTH | 34.00 | 7.00 | | |
| Depth 1 | 3.50 | N/A | | |
| Depth 2 | 5.00 | N/A | | |
| Depth 3 | N/A | | ||
| AVERAGE DEPTH | 4.25 | 3.50 | | |
| PERIMETER | 94.00 | 28.00 | | |
| SURFACE AREA | 442.00 | 49.00 | | |
| INTERIOR AREA | 841.5 | 147 |
General Construction
- Standard Plans and Pool Permits.
- Insurance: Public Liability, negligent property damage and workman’s comp.
- Pool Layout and Approval by Buyer
- Jobsite Supervision.
- All dirt will be removed on day of excavation only.
- If Buyer asks for dirt to be left on site, there will be a fee charged to move or remove it at a later date.
- This price is based off of standard size excavation equipment unless otherwise noted in this document.
- Versa Plumb Equipment Set.
- VGB Compliant Main Drains.
- Dedicated Suction from Main Drain(s).
- All plumbing pipe is schedule 40 PVC.
- All pipe and valves are non-corrosive.
- Steel reinforcing 4 Bar Box Beam 1/2" rebar.
- Steel reinforcing grid @ 10" on centers 3/8" rebar.
- Electrical hook up of pumps, lights, controllers, etc. in required conduit unless Electrical is not purchased by buyer.
- GFCI breakers for Pump(s).
- Electrical Panel change or an upgrade, if needed, is buyer’s responsibility unless otherwise noted in this document. Minimum fee for this is $450.00.
- Sanitation System and overhead or underground utilities to be re-routed by Buyer if needed.
- Pneumatically applied gunite structure per code.
- 12" x 12" bond beam with 6" walls and floor and 8" coves.
- Buyer to water gunite structure down 2 times a day for the first 7 days starting the day after gunite completion.
- One set of steps.
- All poured type concrete decking has fiber mesh in the mix.
- Concrete decks have 3/8” rebar at 18” on centers for reinforcing.
- Concrete decks are 4" thick.
- Concrete type decks have deck dowels tied in from swimming pools.
- If concrete type decking, mastic to be included.
- Final Make Ready of Backyard and Interior of Pool.
- Full Mechanical Start-up of all components.
- Customer Orientation to explain all functions and operations
| CITY PERMITS | |
| Houston | 1 |
| ENGINEERING | |
| Proximity | 1 ea. |
| Drainage Plan with Detention If engineers recommend anything different than what is included in this agreement it will be at sole expense of the client. | 1 ea. |
| SURVEYING | |
| Topo Survey | 1 ea. |
| FENCE | |
| Fence up to 2 section and self closing gates up to 2 | 2 ea. |
| EXCAVATION | |
| Deep End Ramp (5' to 5'11" Deep) | 1 ea. |
| Dump Zone Fee | 1 ea. |
| PLUMBING SHORT STUB | |
| Plumbing Short Stub Pool Only | 1 ea. |
| 9' Raised Metal Equipment Pad | 1 ea |
| MAIN DRAIN FOR POOL | |
| Dedicated Suction to pump measurement from drain to equipment 2.5in pipe | 31 per.ft. |
| SKIMMER | |
| Ultra Quickskim Skimmer 3/4in ball valve | 1 |
| Main Skimmer Run Total 2" and 1" pipe | 21 per.ft. |
| Pool Cleaner line must be purchased on all pools 1.5in pipe | 35 per.ft. |
| POOL RETURN(S) AND TYPE AND OVERFLOW | |
| Pool Return Line 1.5in Pipe (measure 360 degree around pool then back to equipment - Per FT) | 151 per.ft. |
| Venture Eyeballs for high flow with low pump speed | 1 |
| FILL TYPES MUST PICK ONE | |
| Auto Fill Line | 65 per.ft. |
| MAIN POOL PUMP | |
| Stealth 1 h.p Pump 85 gpm at 40 ft (Includes required GFCI Breaker) 85 gpm at 40ft of head | 1 ea. |
| FILTER TYPE(S) | |
| Cartridge 460 sq.ft. max flow 150 gpm | 1 ea. |
| LIGHTING | |
| Jandy Watercolor 12V. LED Pool Light 100' | 1 ea |
| Nicheless LED low 24 voltage light each | 1 ea. |
| 100 Watt TRANSFORMER | 1 ea. |
| Water Bonding Nicheless Light | 1 |
| TIMERS AND AUTOMATION | |
| I-Q904 Pool Spa I-Aqualink Client has gone over in detail that controller will handle all items needed to operate the pool in the manner they desire. | 1 ea. |
| HEATERS - HEAT PUMPS - CHILLERS | |
| 400,000 BTU GAS Heater and non corrosive check valve Client understand they must get gas meter upgraded at their expense. | 1 ea. |
| GUNITE - STEPS-BENCHES-TANNING SHELVE(S) & BEACH ENTRY | |
| Shallow End Steps Measurement | 26 per.ft. |
| Tanning Shelf (ea) | 1 ea. |
| CITY REQUIREMENTS FOR GAS DRAINS AND ELECTRIC | |
| Drainage Permits Decking | 1 |
| Master Plumber 4in. Area Drains With Downspout Connection (ALL CITY JOBS) Client understands this is an estimate on the length of pipe needed anything less PB to credit back, anything more client to pay. | 50 per.ft. |
| City Gas Line - Includes up to 10 feet, City Gas Permit, T & P Gas Valve, and one Regulator) | 70 per.ft. |
| Electric Permits-and 360 Degree Ground | 1 |
| POOL COPING (PER LNFT) | |
| 12X24 LIGHT PAVERS Buyer agrees that natural stones can vary in shades any stone with a hole the size of a quarter or smaller is considered acceptable. | 85 LnFt |
| POOL WATERLINE (SQ.FT) | |
| 6X6 LAC DE BOIS PORCELAIN TILE PORCELAIN | 43 sq.ft. |
| TILE AND COPING - GROUT COLOR,CUTS AND EXTRAS | |
| Colored Grout Coping Colored Grout: 03 Silk | 1 Included |
| Colored Grout Tile Colored Grout: 78 Sterling Silver | 1 Included |
| DECKING AND DRAINAGE | |
| Mastic | 1 ea. |
| Deck Coating per sq.ft. 400 sq.ft. min. | 400 sqft |
| SPA'S | |
| Standard Spa With 4 Jets Venturi with 1hp Blower | 1 ea. |
| Extra Spa Jet for standard spa | 2 ea. |
| Spa Plumbing Runs | 69 ln. ft. |
| SPA COPING (PER LNFT) | |
| 12X24 LIGHT PAVERS Buyer agrees that natural stones can vary in shades any stone with a hole the size of a quarter or smaller is considered acceptable. | 24 LnFt |
| SPA TILE LINE (PER SQ.FT) | |
| Dark Blue Volcano 6x6 Water line tile | 14 sq.ft. |
| SPA LIGHT (ONE MUST BE PURCHASED) | |
| 12watt MINI Color LED Light for Spa | 1 ea. |
| RAISED SPA'S | |
| Spa Raised 12in. w/2" check valve - Steel, Gunite and Plumbing | 1 ea. |
| SPA VENEER (PER SQFT) | |
| 2X4 LIGHT SPLITFACE Splitface | 33 sq.ft. |
| SPA SPILLWAYS | |
| Open spillway per. foot | 4 sq.ft. |
| SPA SPILLWAY TILE (PER SQ.FT.) | |
| 6X6 LAC DE GEMME PORCELAIN TILE PORCELAIN | 12 sq.ft. |
| INTERIOR SURFACE | |
| Blue | 1 |
| SANITIZERS | |
| Inline Chlorinator | 1 ea. |
| Bioshield UV | 1 ea. |
| AUTOMATIC POOL CLEANERS | |
| Polaris 7240 Robotic Cleaner | 1 ea |
