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Guys

Sorry if it may seem a bit inappropriate

Yesterday I was talking to a pool builder and he told me about chlorine destroying some type of vaginal bacteria called Lactobacillus which if destroyed causes Fungal infection in female users

I don't know what his source was

Is it a true claim?
 
Oh lord how stupid are these PBs … or better yet, how stupid do they think we are 🤦‍♂️

@YippeeSkippy can you please, in a very rated PG fashion, help us with the “women’s reproductive health” aspect of this ?
 
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amin36 said:
Guys

Sorry if it may seem a bit inappropriate

Yesterday I was talking to a pool builder and he told me about chlorine destroying some type of vaginal bacteria called Lactobacillus which if destroyed causes Fungal infection in female users

I don't know what his source was

Is it a true claim?
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Not likely. Lactobacillus is classified as facultative and is indeed good for preventing fungal infections in human mucosa. The closest legit snippet I can find relates to gut microbiome and chlorinated drinking water. Chlorinated water supplies don’t disturb healthy gut microbiomes in young children: Study addresses concern that adverse effects on microbiome could lead to longer term susceptibility to chronic diseases
Upshot, don’t see how swimming would have an effect, or as @Mdragger88 points put, how bathing in chlorinated tap water would have differing result, but also don’t see specific studies of the issue (either way).

I have seen questionable suggestions by companies that sell probiotic suppositories for women that such supplements are needed for swimmers. Seems like a marketing solution for a non-existent problem.

Either way, it’s not exactly an original idea of mine that the risk of swimming in non-chlorinated water far exceeds whatever health risks the PB has been convinced might theoretically exist from an effect on lactobacillus or any other human probiotic. Did the PB suggest an alternative to chlorination or have any other particular axe to grind?
 
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My father had serious kidney failure brought about by prostate issues. We dealt with a very talented surgeon who specialized in such matters. He was a genius when it came to performing the necessary kidney and prostate diagnosis and surgeries. The surgeon restored full functionality to my father and his kidneys came back 100%.

This same brilliant doctor, while in a follow up visit, admited to us he could not change a light bulb in his dining room chandelier. No matter how he tried he could not figure out how to change the lightbulb, so he called an electrician who knew how to address the problem with his years of experience. In an hour or less the electrician performed his work and the surgeon had a working bulb in his chandelier again.

The lesson here I think is allow the respected professionals to asses situations and dispense advice within their specialty area of expertise. Call the kidney surgeon when your kidneys are failing. Call the electrician when your kidney surgeon needs his light bulb changed.

Fight the urge to listen to health advice dispensed by an untrained individual in spite of him having “Pool Doctor” as the name of his business.
 
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amin36 said:
Yesterday I was talking to a pool builder and he told me about chlorine destroying some type of vaginal bacteria called Lactobacillus which if destroyed causes Fungal infection in female users.
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I asked the 14 year old kid who cuts my lawn what they thought and they say that the advice seems unreliable.

I also asked the guy at the supermarket who stacks the bananas and he agrees that the advice is highly unlikely to be accurate.
 
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Little contrarian voice here again :) . Sometimes an advance in knowledge comes from unexpected places and it costs nothing to listen to and consider data and opinions based thereon. When the chips are down, experts who been there, done that are the right folks to turn to. OTOH, ridiculous suggestions where the effort comes from refuting the obvious wrongness are not worth the time. In between, there’s a lot of in between. This may be a case in point — the proposition sure looks like it can’t be so, but is there solid data that says it’s not so? Ultimately, assuming none in the group are human microbiologists who have studied the issue, we take in the data and draw our individual,non-expert conclusions until a trustworthy source who can back it with data says otherwise.

I guess I’m bristling a little at various occupations being dismissed due to the occupation. I know it’s not intended as offensive. Many effective pharma compounds were discovered based on the self-observations of the seemingly pedestrian clinical subjects given a compound for a completely unrelated anticipated effect. Everyone can contribute a little something, if it’s a sincere attempt to contribute, without some other motive. I’m still wondering what alternative the PB suggested and what the motives may have been. Like, females should not swim in a pool ‘cause it may harm? What PB would suggest that? Has anyone from the lawn caretaker to any Nobel Prize winner in medicine ever observed such a thing? Makes no sense. But the suggestion may lead somebody to study it and shoot it down with a blaze lol. Probably on a government grant — researchers need to eat too :).
 
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Ohmydearsweetbabyjezus....what in the world are women doin' in them there pools in your neck of the woods, Amin36???

The pH of women's inner ladybits is very acidic... this protects all the normal flora and fungees in those deep dark areas. They play nice together until someone does something unseemly to 'em and then they might get out of whack.

Swimming in a chlorinated pool does nothing to affect them.

The women are safe!! :goodjob:
 
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