Floor Drain-Necessary?

[JamesW]

Some states require them for code. Unfortunately for me, GA requires them.

Maybe for a public pool, but I don't think that any local codes require a main drain on a residential swimming pool.

If you have a link to a code requiring a main drain on a residential pool, please post it.

Suction Outlet Fitting Assembly (SOFA).

ANSI/PHTA/ICC-7 2020 American National Standard for Suction Entrapment Avoidance in Swimming Pools..

The purpose of this standard is to establish anti-entrapment performance requirements for public and residential swimming pools, wading pools, field-constructed spas and hot tubs, and any other bather-accessible body of water, including but not limited to, catch pools, infinity edge basins, and...

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ANSI/PHTA/ICC-7 2020 American National Standard for Suction Entrapment Avoidance in Swimming Pools..

Published on Apr 19, 2021

The purpose of this standard is to establish anti-entrapment performance requirements for public and residential swimming pools, wading pools, field-constructed spas and hot tubs, and any other bather-accessible body of water, including but not limited to, catch pools, infinity edge basins, and water features that contain a skimmer, fully submerged Suction Outlet Fitting Assembly (SOFA) or vacuum port fitting. The term “pool” is used throughout this standard as an identifier for these bodies of water.

 

[JamesW]

4.4.1 Submerged suction outlets are optional.

Fully submerged suction outlets (main drains) are not required in pools and spas.


802.2 Structural Design.

The structural design and materials shall be in accordance with the International Residential Code.

AMERICAN NATIONAL STANDARD FOR SUCTION ENTRAPMENT AVOIDANCE IN SWIMMING POOLS WADING POOLS SPAS HOT TUBS AND CATCH BASINS - 2018 INTERNATIONAL SWIMMING POOL AND SPA CODE WITH GEORGIA AMENDMENTS

ICC Digital Codes is the largest provider of model codes, custom codes and standards used worldwide to construct safe, sustainable, affordable and resilient structures.

codes.iccsafe.org

AMERICAN NATIONAL STANDARD FOR SUCTION ENTRAPMENT AVOIDANCE IN SWIMMING POOLS WADING POOLS SPAS HOT TUBS AND CATCH BASINS - 2018 INTERNATIONAL SWIMMING POOL AND SPA CODE WITH GEORGIA AMENDMENTS

ICC Digital Codes is the largest provider of model codes, custom codes and standards used worldwide to construct safe, sustainable, affordable and resilient structures.

codes.iccsafe.org

https://www.senoia.com/media/10656

Pool Building Guide

www.senoia.com

 

[JamesW]

Compilation of Rules and Regulations of the State of Georgia
Department 511 - RULES OF GEORGIA DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH
Chapter 511-3 - ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH HAZARDS
Subject 511-3-5 - PUBLIC SWIMMING POOLS, SPAS, AND RECREATIONAL WATER PARKS
Rule 511-3-5-.10 - Return Inlets and Suction Outlets

(2) Location. All pools shall be provided with at least two main drain suction outlets with sumps in the lowest point of the pool floor or other approved methods.

(a) The main drain system shall be designed at a minimum to handle recirculation flow of 100% of total design recirculation flow rate. The branch pipe from each main drain outlet shall be designed to carry 100% of the recirculation flow rate
(b) The spacing of the main drains shall be at least three feet apart, but not more than twenty on centers nor more than fifteen feet from each side wall.
(c) Three or more suction outlets are subject to the three feet spacing requirement measured from the centerline between the outermost suction outlets.
(3) All spas shall have a minimum of two suction outlets provided for each pump in the suction outlet system, separated by a minimum of three feet or located on two different planes; e.g., one on the bottom and one on the vertical wall, or one each on two separate vertical walls. These suction outlets shall be plumbed such that water is drawn through them simultaneously through a common line to the pump.

(4) Suction outlets shall be provided with a cover that has been tested and approved by a nationally recognized testing laboratory and shall comply with the current ANSI/APSP-16, Suction Fittings For Use in Swimming Pools, Wading Pools, Spas, and Hot Tubs or a successor standard and the following:

Compilation of Rules and Regulations of the State of Georgia, Subject 511-3-5, Rule 511-3-5-.10 - Return Inlets and Suction Outlets | Compilation of Rules and Regulations of the State of Georgia | Justia

Compilation of Rules and Regulations of the State of Georgia, Department 511 - RULES OF GEORGIA DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH, Chapter 511-3 - ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH HAZARDS, Subject 511-3-5 - PUBLIC SWIMMING POOLS, SPAS, AND RECREATIONAL WATER PARKS, Rule 511-3-5-.10 - Return Inlets and Suction Outlets

regulations.justia.com

 

[JamesW]

Residential Pools
• 2018 International Swimming Pools and Spa Code with GA Amendments
• American National Standard for Residential Inground Swimming Pools, ANSI/NSPI-5 2011
• American National Standard for Aboveground/On ground Residential Pools, ANSI/NSPI-4 200
• American National Standard for Permanently Installed Spas, ANSI/NSPI-3 1999
• American National Standard for Residential Portable Spas, ANSI/NSPI-6 1999
• 2023 National Electrical Code [NEC], NFPA 70, including but not limited to Article 680, “Swimming
Pools, Fountains, and Similar Installations.”
• 2018 International Plumbing Code [IPC] w/ Georgia Amendments (Indirect drains, backflow, etc.)
• 2018 International Fuel Gas Code [IFGC] w/Georgia Amendments
• 2018 International Mechanical Code [IMC] w/ Georgia Amendments (Pool heaters, etc.)
• City of Alpharetta Unified Development Code [UDC] (Fencing, setbacks, permitting, etc.)
• Building Code Requirements for Structural Concrete, ACI 318-05

https://www.alpharetta.ga.us/docs/default-source/community-dev/buildings-inspections/swimming-pool-permitting-procedures.pdf

https://www.mariettaga.gov/DocumentCenter/View/13805/Pool-Construction-and-Permitting-Guidelines

 

[Marco Josip]

The top plug screw in for the hydrostatic pressure relief valve.

Would you guys recommend gluing that in OR just using teflon tape on the threads when screwing in.

Shotcrete guy saying NO glue and just use Teflon tape. Saying that if you ever need to or decide to just cap those hydrostatic relief valves down the road once you’ve glued them your SOL.

Any risk of them leaking with just screwing in with teflon tape?

Thanks for any feedback

Also….inspections passed yesterday, shotcrete going in today. Very excited to see progression

 

[Bperry]

The top plug screw in for the hydrostatic pressure relief valve.

Would you guys recommend gluing that in OR just using teflon tape on the threads when screwing in.

Shotcrete guy saying NO glue and just use Teflon tape. Saying that if you ever need to or decide to just cap those hydrostatic relief valves down the road once you’ve glued them your SOL.

Any risk of them leaking with just screwing in with teflon tape?

Thanks for any feedback

Also….inspections passed yesterday, shotcrete going in today. Very excited to see progression

They need to be removable if you ever drain your pool for repairs.