Expert in Cordless Pool Cleaning Robots – Tips & Recommendations for Purchase and Discussion

[Mayorb]

Due to the short release time of AIPER X1, I have not actually used it, but I have Aquasense Pro.
Its advantage(beatbot) is that it is made with great precision and has a seemingly strong waterproof performance.
And there is a 3-year warranty,Although it hasn't been three years since its birth yet
, but the 3-year warranty at least proves their team's confidence in quality.
Its internal structure is very complex and has a completely different internal structure design from other robots, using a large amount of epoxy resin and other sealing methods.
And in some motors, fully waterproof motors that can even operate in a submerged state are used.
But the downside is that its proud or costly "map drawing" feature is not very user-friendly, which means a significant portion of the $2000 may have been wasted.
And for the 5-in-1 robot, trust me, it's definitely not as good as buying a basic model+Betta.
These machines are already very heavy.
The additional weight added by the skimmer module is more like a heavy burden than its functionality.
Considering your overall situation, although I have not used AIPER's latest product, SCUBA X1+BETTA is your best choice.
The second layer filter is very important as long as the filter does not completely clog.
It will be very useful.
In addition, the 2025model of AIPER SCUBA S1 is also equipped with a fine filter, which you can use as an alternative

Fellow pool pro here. You have provided a lot of good info. There are so many new robots coming out on the market lately, I can't keep track, much less knowing much about longevity/performance for a given model.
I can't even recommend Dolphin anymore. They used to be the "gold standard" of bots. Maybe get 2-3 years out of them now.
I now tell people who ask, "If you don't have $900++ to spend on a bot, you don't want one".

 

[lay303]

We just purchased our first home and it has a 25,000 gallon pebbletec pool. It has an awkward design for pool vacuums and I have already purchased 2 suction side cleaners and neither of them worked. The issue is there is 2 sitting ledges in the deep end and the step in the shallow end is very steep. I first purchased the Hayward Pool Cleaner 4x and it did the bottom decent but wasn’t doing the sides and got stuck several times. I returned it, did some research and decided to try the Polaris Maxx and it has been even worse than the Hayward: it’s awful in that it constantly gets stuck or sits in one area and can’t move or just stops working altogether, and I watch it go right over debris and it just shoots out the back. I’m looking into getting a Dolphin, which would be the best one to buy for my pool?

 

[Michael z]

Fellow pool pro here. You have provided a lot of good info. There are so many new robots coming out on the market lately, I can't keep track, much less knowing much about longevity/performance for a given model.
I can't even recommend Dolphin anymore. They used to be the "gold standard" of bots. Maybe get 2-3 years out of them now.
I now tell people who ask, "If you don't have $900++ to spend on a bot, you don't want one".

Recently, I have researched many swimming pool robots at different prices and found that only the beach and dolphin use similar motor structures.
They use a closed motor and a brass motor cover embedded in the housing to prevent water from entering from the motor shaft.
This can protect the internal circuits of the robot, but the cost is that the bearings inside the motor may rust.
This move has increased the lifespan of robots from 1 year for other brands to over 4 years.
I am delighted to present this significant discovery to my boss and hope to apply similar solutions to our robots.
But she did not agree.
At present, I hold a pessimistic attitude towards other robots and the entire pool robot industry except for beatbot and dolphin.
Beatbot is climbing sales at a terrifying pace.
Only established for the second year.
Its monthly sales have approached or even exceeded Aiper's

 

[Michael z]

Hey Michael,


I just had my 36,000 gal inground pool replastered and I am looking forward to no more daily brushing and the ability to use a vacuum/cleaner again! It is 42 x20', shallow depth 3.5' to 12.5' deep diving bowl, 18" deep corner swimouts in 3 corners (curved 2ft), and the fourth corner has a 5x8' shelf about 18" deep. Obviously a significant slope to the floor and all corners are rounded, and no 90 degree corners except from the top of the swimout to their vertical edge. It always has a vinyl cover on, except when we are swimming in it. Last year we used the Hayward Navigator suction vacuum, with in-line leaf cannister (with a skimmer sock inside the cannister basket), and used it every 1-2 weeks, just a "toss it and forget it" the day before a swim party. The Navigator is aging and may need to be replaced? I am not looking for a skimming cleaner, as I feel the skimmers are working fine. We use the pool May - September, and then close it for the winter.



I have been intrigued with the Beatbot Aqua Sense 2 on Amazon for about $1K. Do you think this will work in my pool? What do you recommend?

Beatbot2 is definitely the best choice at the moment.
It has already proven itself with the climb in sales, and in just its second year of sales, its monthly sales have exceeded those of AIPER.
And according to my disassembly, the internal workmanship, especially the waterproof design, is the best among all the new cordless robots.
The downside is that It may wheelie in some cases.But if you only use it for long-term maintenance cleaning work instead of heavy cleaning, it's great

 

[Michael z]

Any experience with the Dolphin (2025 Model) Explorer E25 Wi-Fi?
Maybe I'm foolish but the old Dolphin lasted 10+ years so I'm leaning to their products.

Continue to purchase Dolphin.
It is stable enough.
But I am not particularly familiar with their latest models.
Therefore, I am very sorry that I cannot provide specific recommendations for this model.
There are comments online that the new model is not as durable as the old model.
There may be issues with motor bearings not rotating, but Dolphin's warranty network is more comprehensive than other brands.
Buy Dolphin brand with confidence

 

[Michael z]

Looking for recommendation.. new 17k gallon in ground pebble tech auto covered saltwater pool, sports configuration, 6’ depth max with 9” Acapulco deck… Central Valley, California so lots of sun, heat, dust, sand, orchard pollen, foxtails, water bugs even a snake or two… Memorial Day sales and considering Aiper scuba x1 with surfer S2 but maybe the 180 micron mesh isn’t fine enough? Open to anything…. Thanks, Wally

You can consider combining Beetbot 2 Basic Edition with Aiper Surfer 2 or Betta skimmer
In the high-end field, the overall level of aiper X1 seems to be inferior to that of beatbot.
It entered the high-end field in its first year and is not yet mature. Some people have reported that Whelie's problems are more serious than Beatbot's.
We recommend beatbot more when the prices are similar.
But after the second generation of improvements, their aiper skimmer seems good.
and it is cheap enough.
Currently, it seems to be around $310

 

[Michael z]

Hi

Thank you,
What is your experience with the smorobot? Just saw it in a store and was wondering about it.

I have one ,

This brand didn't only appear in the past two years. In my impression, it started selling pool robots at the same time as Aiper and Wybot. But it doesn't seem to have achieved commercial success.

Their robot is just a very ordinary robot, which doesn't leave a deep impression

 

[Michael z]

On the website it says the Aquasense Ultra2 can do 5 hours of floor cleaning. Maybe its mapping features will work for that big pool? At $3K i dont think anyone here has tested it yet.

Mapping features actually do not provide much help for cleaning. It just makes people feel more controllable.
But in reality, 5 hours is enough for him to cover the swimming pool countless times, even if it's just a random plot. Its 5-hour cleaning is mainly due to its huge battery, which is 2-3 times that of other cheap products. This is normal. The cost is that the robots are very heavy

 

[Michael z]

Bumping due to no reply

Sorry, the swimming pool season has arrived, and as a practitioner in the swimming pool industry, I have become very busy. This caused me to not have time to reply to the forum for a long time. Continue purchasing Dolphin, it is a great solution. If you want to repair it, you can also try checking its internal motor bearings. There are videos on YouTube. If the motor doesn't work, it's usually because the internal bearings are stuckBut if you don't have the conditions for repair, you can continue to purchase a new one.

 

[Michael z]

Hello Michael. Great information you've shared. Thank you.

I'm looking to replace my Polaris 9550 with a cordless robot because it has a problem with a wheel I need to try to fix and its cord has developed a twist and keeps fighting with my Betta skimmer. The 9550 was purchased 9/2021 so I'm hoping my next robot lasts longer than 3 seasons.

I don't need a remote control, I've never used the one that came with the 9550. I'm trying to keep the cost around $1,000 and take advantage of some of the sales going on this week.

My pool is a vinyl liner made in the mid 1980's. It's 36' long and 25' wide. The shallow end is 3' and the deep end is 9'. I'd describe the shape as eggplant or pear shaped. The picture of the pool is with the cover on but gives an idea of the shape.

I'm considering the Aiper S1 or Beatbox Aquasense. I'd like something that used some logic to clean the pool rather than random patterns. Thanks

Aquasense is a good choice, Sorry, I didn't see it and couldn't reply in a timely manner.

 

[Michael z]

They were riddled with problems and we haven't seen any reports on the redesigned models yet here.

Quite frankly, if any company got it right in the mid 3 digits range, they would own the market overnight.

In fact, I recently discovered a major secret about the durability of swimming pool robots. For a $400-600 swimming pool robot, people do not necessarily require it to have many fancy features, but the most desirable feature is durability, at least being able to use a few more seasons
But in reality, they often get damaged within 6-24 months.
In order to extend the service life of robots, I have recently carefully studied the internal structure of Dolphin and the internal design of robots from other brands.
Discovered common design flaws in existing robots from other brands, including Polaris.
Especially on the TFP forum, there is a detailed post that breaks down Aiper Seagull Pro.
The water protection design for the motor inside is very simple, Rough.
This causes water to infiltrate from the motor.
Through disassembly and dolphin repair videos, I discovered that the dolphin adopts a completely different design scheme.
I have also found a supplier for Dolphin motors.
The motor of the same model as Dolphin can be directly applied to other models.
And I also have an additional battery water protection design for cordless swimming pool robots with battery characteristics.
But it is difficult to execute and operate.
If my findings are useful, I will promote the protective features of our newly developed product through formal channels on forums and social media.
But there are also many difficulties with this. If it doesn't work. I can only continue to recommend my excellent competitor - beatbot Betta and Dolphin.
They have been approved by me

 

[Newdude]

Beatbot2 is definitely the best choice at the moment.
It has already proven itself with the climb in sales, and in just its second year of sales, its monthly sales have exceeded those of AIPER.

Sales don't prove reliability. It proves how terrible everyone else is that people will spend a small fortune on a *chance* of better reliability from a new player.

 

[Katodude]

I have also found a supplier for Dolphin motors.

This is important. Do you have this for the corded dolphins where the catastrophic failure is the motor? If so how do we get these, and how much are they?