Do I have the wrong Pump Motor?

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Joey TheTrapper

Joey TheTrapper

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Northwest Georgia ~ Pine Log, GA.
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Salt Water Generator
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Hayward Turbo Cell (T-CELL-5)
The electrician brought a motor over today and it does not look like the original, he is coming on Saturday to install
New Hayward Replacement motor has a capacitor mount to the top, it also has one inside just like the original
here is what I have
Hayward Super Pump model SP2607X10
Hayward Motor model SPX1607Z1M > this model # was on the new Hayward shipping box

electrician said the new motor fits my pump as well as a couple others
here are 2 photos of the original & the replacement motor
did he get the correct motor?
any and all help appreciated
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Joey TheTrapper said:
The electrician brought a motor over today and it does not look like the original, he is coming on Saturday to install
New Hayward Replacement motor has a capacitor mount to the top, it also has one inside just like the original
here is what I have
Hayward Super Pump model SP2607X10
Hayward Motor model SPX1607Z1M > this model # was on the new Hayward shipping box

electrician said the new motor fits my pump as well as a couple others
here are 2 photos of the original & the replacement motor
did he get the correct motor?
any and all help appreciated
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Motor with the run capacitor (cap start/cap run) is a better motor as long as the numbers work. Is it a 1hp with a service factor (see the SF on the label of the old and new) of at least 1.1? If so it is good.
 
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Note: Hayward has replaced the original capacitor start motor with a Capacitor Start/Capacitor Run motor.

Capacitor Start/Capacitor Run motors have applications and performance similar to capacitor start except for the addition of a run capacitor (which stays in circuit) for higher efficiency and reduced running amperage.

Capacitor Start/Capacitor Run.

This design has two capacitors of different values.

A centrifugal switch is used to remove the electrolytic capacitor when the motor approaches full load speed.

A second run capacitor remains in series with the auxiliary winding during full load operation.

This type of design has lower full-load amps as a result of the run capacitor and is consequently used on most higher horsepower single phase motors.

The new version has a run capacitor on top and the new part number is K48AB23A04 and SP26110Z1MEG.

K48AB23A04 (SP26110Z1MEG) has a Total Hp of 1.10 HP with a S.F of 1.0.

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Hayward 1 HP Max Rate Pool Pump Motor, Gold - SPX1607Z1M - INYOPools.com

1 HP MAXRATE MOTOR - Pool & Spa Parts
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SPX1607Z1M - 1 HP Pump Motor 115/230V Max Rated - Hayward

This is a Hayward 1 HP Pump Motor Threaded Shaft, 1-Speed 115/230 Volts 60 Hz, Max Rated. This motor fits the following pumps: Super Pumps SP1600X/SP2600X, Max-Flo SP1800X/SP2800X, and Super II SP3000X Series Pool Pumps.Hayward motors have been engineered to their high standards to ensure a...
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Note that the label says that the Frame is 48Y, which is incorrect.

The Frame is 56J.

The 56J is always a C-flange, threaded-shaft motor.
 
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James, from your post #10 above
This is a Hayward 1 HP Pump Motor Threaded Shaft, 1-Speed 115/230 Volts 60 Hz, Max Rated. This motor fits the following pumps: Super Pumps SP1600X/SP2600X, Max-Flo SP1800X/SP2800X, and Super II SP3000X Series Pool Pumps.

the above is what the electrician was saying, the replacement motor fits multiple pumps
I have the Super Pump model SP2607X10
so according to this did he get the correct pump?
 
New DOE Regulations are pushing manufacturers to go to more efficient pumps and motors.

The new motor is more efficient due to the run capacitor.

Within AC induction motors, DOE identified six categories of motors, including shaded-pole, split-phase, capacitor-start (capacitor-start induction-run “CSIR” and capacitor-start capacitor-run “CSCR”), permanent-split capacitor (“PSC”), and polyphase. 87 FR 37122, 37135-37136.

DPPP motors must not operate with a capacitor start induction run (CSIR) or split phase (SP) configuration at maximum operating speed.


 
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Must list Total Horsepower with a Service Factor of 1.0.

HP ratings will be redefined so that all pumps have a Service Factor of 1.0, and the HP displayed on the pump will be the THP (also
referred to as Service Factor Horsepower [SFHP]).

This new rating methodology will eliminate dual full-rate and up-rate labeling existing today.

Total horsepower is the maximum load under which a pump motor can operate properly.

It is calculated by multiplying the motor horsepower by the service factor.

Up-rate and full-rate labeling of pumps will be eliminated.





Getting rid of "Service Factor" for motors.

Does service factor have any value? In my opinion, it has no value. In fact, I think that it only causes problems and confusion. The only number that really matters is the Total HP of the motor. Motor makers make two identical motors and label one as 1 hp with a 1.65 service factor and the...
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The electrician came today, I watched him remove and install the motor
he started it up and left
it sounds and pumps just like the original
a very very slight leak has developed from the bottom, he did not replace any seals, gaskets, or o-rings
I called him and his reply was "you paid me to supply and replace the pump" he wants $90 an hour + parts to fix the leak
I will not be using him
looking at the schematic for the Super Pump, housing gasket, diffuser gasket, and shaft seal should have been replaced
 
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Go kit 3. I'm recommending the salt version because the shaft seal is better and worth it in my opinion.
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Thanks, I do have a Salt pool
looking at that kit the housing gasket doesn't look right, mine is a thin round o-ring and that one looks to be flat
could it be that the housing gasket shown recesses back in a groove? making it looks like an o-ring
the lid o-ring, diffuser gasket, and seal look exactly like what I have
 

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