Correct wiring for SWG

[JamesW]

The pump gets wired directly to the breaker. The SWG gets wired to pins 2 and 4 of the pump relay (2 and 4 are the load). 1 and 3 are line in. Power in is from the pump breaker.

Also, note that the easytouch does not come with breakers. The breakers are supplied and installed by the builder or his electrical subcontractor. Anything wired to a breaker was done during installation.

 

[JoyfulNoise]

Jim, I have heard that a vs pump does not use the relay? Is that not the case? Did you wire your set up?

In case this wasn't made clear - when POOL Mode is selected on the EasyTouch panel, the #1 relay is activated by default and, if an IntelliFlo VSP is present, the logic tells the pump through the serial communication wire to turn on (if it's not on) and transition to whatever speed setting is programmed in for the POOL feature circuit. So that #1 relay is used to internally control an SWG, if present, or it can control a single speed/2-speed pump, or both. That's just how Pentair has designed their system.

I contacted the pool builder because I feel it’s something he should correct since it was initially set up wrong. His response was it was wired from the factory that way, which doesn’t sound right to me, but he will contact pentair and get back to me. The warning label was sent from factory so somethings wrong here. You are correct and will see if his response from pentair will get this fixed, if not I’ll be correcting it.

Yep, sounds like a good old case of a bologna sandwich with a little schmear of CYA on top....and not the kind of CYA you put in your pool

 

[Perpetual summer]

Thanks Jim, Matt, what you are saying is very logical to me and I believe the pool builder which Is very honest, will take care of anything not up to par. He seems somewhat knowledgeable about the setup of the easytouch but I doubt he is an electrician, he said his setup is wired the same so he will get to the bottom of it.
I think I have a grasp on your instructions so I will give the builder a chance to rectify.
Thanks so much for the info and time spent on this forum.

 

[bizzle]

The pump gets wired directly to the breaker. The SWG gets wired to pins 2 and 4 of the pump relay (2 and 4 are the load). 1 and 3 are line in. Power in is from the pump breaker.

Also, note that the easytouch does not come with breakers. The breakers are supplied and installed by the builder or his electrical subcontractor. Anything wired to a breaker was done during installation.

I don't think you can directly wire two things to a single breaker unless it's listed as being capable of that. In an earlier photo, I noticed the pump was wired to 1 and 3 of the relay along with the breaker. I don't know if that is correct, either. Both scenarios would require a pigtail, I believe, but I'm not sure which is the code compliant or recommended way to power the pump between the two (pump to relay or pump to breaker).

 

[Jimrahbe]

I don't think you can directly wire two things to a single breaker unless it's listed as being capable of that. In an earlier photo, I noticed the pump was wired to 1 and 3 of the relay along with the breaker. I don't know if that is correct, either. Both scenarios would require a pigtail, I believe, but I'm not sure which is the code compliant or recommended way to power the pump between the two (pump to relay or pump to breaker).

Technically you should not put two wires into one circuit breaker, but that does not seem to stop most pool installers...

You can, once it leaves the breaker connect to a relay which has more than one wire on the relay terminal. Not unlike household wiring that goes to number of different places all controlled by one circuit breaker.

There is not any difference in connecting more than one wire to the same relay terminal as it would be to connecting them using a wire nut and pig tail.

The key to this whole thing is that any VS pump is supposed to get continuous AC power that is not controlled by a relay or timer..

Thanks,

Jim R.

 

[JamesW]

10. IMPORTANT: When connecting the pump to an automation system (IntelliTouch®, EasyTouch®, SunTouch® Control Systems and IntelliComm® Communication Center), continuous power must be supplied to the pump by connecting it directly to the circuit breaker. When using an automation system, be sure that no other lights or appliances are on the same circuit.

CAUTION - When using the IntelliChlor Salt Chlorine Generator (SCG) with an IntelliTouch®,EasyTouch® or SunTouch® Control System, always wire the IntelliChlor Salt Chlorine Generator (SCG)Power Center to the pump side of the relay located in the IntelliTouch, EasyTouch or SunTouch load center. The power supply must be interconnected with pool pump motor power source. This insures the SCG and pool pump will switch on and off together.

The first quote says not to connect anything else to the breaker feeding the IntelliFlo pump. However, the second quote says that the IntelliChlor needs to be interconnected to the same power source as the pump.

You can power the pump relay from a different breaker than the breaker feeding the IntelliFlo because the system will turn the relay off when it turns the pump off.

However, I would power it from the same breaker as the one feeding the IntelliFlo because the breaker to the Intelliflo might trip, which would cause the pump to shut off but the SWG would still be powered.

If the breaker is rated for two conductors, then it can be used with two conductors. Alternatively, you can use a pigtail or just connect the pump to the line side of the relay.