So... you have a great excuse to sit by the pool with a glass and ice cubes and visit your friend Jack??
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So... you have a great excuse to sit by the pool with a glass and ice cubes and visit your friend Jack??
Yes I might start things off with a Bloody Mary or 2 and count that as veggies for din din! But then progressing right on to JD & C!
Happy Weekend All
Happy Weekend All 
You posted some really nice #'s with your new test kit :-D
I suggest that you do the OCLT tonight to rule out/in organics.
Happy Weekend to you, too
I suggest that you do the OCLT tonight to rule out/in organics.
Happy Weekend to you, too I was a nervous wreck wondering where you were at tonight 
My son did the cya test it is dusky out ~ he saw 50-55.
So now I am a bit nervous I was off, but I felt good about what I saw and ran the liquid through 3 times and came up always closest to 40 for cya.
I am having him retest it tomorrow. I feel if it is lighter out his number has all likelihood of coming down a bit and getting closer to mine.
I am dropping FC hourly
6:00 19.5 ppm
7:00 18 ppm
8:41 14ppm (added 182 oz of Wonder Juice)
Bloody Marys never tasted better
The differencial in our cya numbers has me a bit nervous.
The amount of Wonder Juice on my back porch has me a bit nervous ~ son thinks Sam's Club is going to report me for having a meth lab, lol ~ said the test kit will seal the deal ~ we laughed and giggled.
Am going to keep on keeping on with this until I go to bed. Retest cya back against sun tomorrow and keep moving forward. 40/60 cya reading makes a big difference in my shock lvl thinking tonight I need to keep it at 20 to have all bases covered. My filter is 300 pound sand filter running all the time so I think I should kick it up a notch just in case these old eyes aren't seeing what they think they saw. Do you agree with this or should I just overshoot 16 for the night?
I will do OCLT tonight ~ would like to go a few more hours dosing with the juice before I get the final nightly reading ~ would that be ok?
And thanks for checking here and helping me out ~ I really do appreciate it.
It's crazy taking advice off the net as it relates to something like this, luckily I am crazy enough to roll with it ~ so thanks a bunch!
My son did the cya test it is dusky out ~ he saw 50-55.
So now I am a bit nervous I was off, but I felt good about what I saw and ran the liquid through 3 times and came up always closest to 40 for cya.
I am having him retest it tomorrow. I feel if it is lighter out his number has all likelihood of coming down a bit and getting closer to mine.
I am dropping FC hourly
6:00 19.5 ppm
7:00 18 ppm
8:41 14ppm (added 182 oz of Wonder Juice)
Bloody Marys never tasted better
The differencial in our cya numbers has me a bit nervous.
The amount of Wonder Juice on my back porch has me a bit nervous ~ son thinks Sam's Club is going to report me for having a meth lab, lol ~ said the test kit will seal the deal ~ we laughed and giggled.
Am going to keep on keeping on with this until I go to bed. Retest cya back against sun tomorrow and keep moving forward. 40/60 cya reading makes a big difference in my shock lvl thinking tonight I need to keep it at 20 to have all bases covered. My filter is 300 pound sand filter running all the time so I think I should kick it up a notch just in case these old eyes aren't seeing what they think they saw. Do you agree with this or should I just overshoot 16 for the night?
I will do OCLT tonight ~ would like to go a few more hours dosing with the juice before I get the final nightly reading ~ would that be ok?
And thanks for checking here and helping me out ~ I really do appreciate it.
It's crazy taking advice off the net as it relates to something like this, luckily I am crazy enough to roll with it ~ so thanks a bunch!
Don't be nervous 'cause there are lots of members here that can help :-D Just holler!
Don't worry about the CYA test. You need light to perform the test correctly and I think the one you did today is right. Your son will confirm this for you tomorrow, or you two can figure it out
Remember you can pour it back and forth in the tube to help confirm your reading.
Using 20 FC for shock level sounds good to me.
You have found a wonderful source of pool support here at TFP
Don't worry about the CYA test. You need light to perform the test correctly and I think the one you did today is right. Your son will confirm this for you tomorrow, or you two can figure it out
Remember you can pour it back and forth in the tube to help confirm your reading.Using 20 FC for shock level sounds good to me.
:lol: :lol: note to self: Do not store [s:1xqkbzpg]Bloody Marys or Jack & Coke[/s:1xqkbzpg] libations near the test kit.
Yep, sounds good. Let it mix good, 45minutes or so before final testing. Remember to test FC and CC for the OCLT.
You're welcome. And, you aren't the only one taking advice off the net.
You have found a wonderful source of pool support here at TFP
Captain's Log 10:00 pm
Thinking it's a bit too dark on the patio to be running the lab...
FC is 22
Tonight it might have changed a tinge on the CC when I added my 5 drops of 0003. ~ I added 1 drop of 0871 and thought I detected a slight change (I have the swirly majig) added a second and it looked like it didn't change but it looked clear. So I am officially inconclusive due to lighting status for that. No doubt earlier today in better lighting it remained clear and I had no CC's. But if I am off on my cya estimate and it is higher with additional bleach added maybe I stirred a pot I didn't know was cooking! Tomorrow tells all.
I will still test in the morning and keep on keeping on... but I will definitely need better lighting if I am going to be Dexter's Laboratory tomorrow night.
Felt like I was wasting my chemistry this last go, because I just wasn't confident in what I was seeing.
After seeing everything laid out (my numbers) ~ I am not in panic mode, I feel I am close to having the lagoon clear... If nothing else the Wonder Juice is in fighting the baddies and tomorrow I will have all day and nice night time lighting to work with or I will close up shop before it gets as dark as it is now.
Loving my test kit! It kicks total @!
Thanks & Sleep well All
Thinking it's a bit too dark on the patio to be running the lab...
FC is 22
Tonight it might have changed a tinge on the CC when I added my 5 drops of 0003. ~ I added 1 drop of 0871 and thought I detected a slight change (I have the swirly majig) added a second and it looked like it didn't change but it looked clear. So I am officially inconclusive due to lighting status for that. No doubt earlier today in better lighting it remained clear and I had no CC's. But if I am off on my cya estimate and it is higher with additional bleach added maybe I stirred a pot I didn't know was cooking! Tomorrow tells all.
I will still test in the morning and keep on keeping on... but I will definitely need better lighting if I am going to be Dexter's Laboratory tomorrow night.
Felt like I was wasting my chemistry this last go, because I just wasn't confident in what I was seeing.
After seeing everything laid out (my numbers) ~ I am not in panic mode, I feel I am close to having the lagoon clear... If nothing else the Wonder Juice is in fighting the baddies and tomorrow I will have all day and nice night time lighting to work with or I will close up shop before it gets as dark as it is now.
Loving my test kit! It kicks total @!
Thanks & Sleep well All
My understanding is you are using a lightbulb it should be incandescen, not fluorescent . I assume the F bulb is to blue in color.
Captain's Log:
Saturday 6:00 am
FC ~ 22ppm
CC ~ Zilch
(I think I had zilch last night as well ~ I find it hard to believe that it jumped up on the 1 test I had poor lighting and passed all others)
So I have passed the OCLT & didn't lose FC's through the night ~ which would be great under normal circumstances...
except for the fact that I am still looking lagoony this morning ~ water cloudy
Seems most folks from what I have read here clear the cloudiness with ease and have difficulty with the OCLT (just an observation on my part ~ maybe I am not clicking the right threads to see the ones where cloudiness is last of the 3 to pass)
So with that I didn't add any morning Wonder Juice & will keep checking lvls throughout the day.
Overcast today... Set alarm for 5 am, because sunrise was 5:37 ~ but I didn't need to get out of bed until 6 ~ there is no sun yet today...
In my head I am thinking I need to let that filter continue filtering ~ but there could be a possibility my sand is "buggared up" (New Sand this year), clumping in the tank. I am well within the week I have read it can take filters to clear the cloudiness.
What do you think I should do based on the above?
Saturday 6:00 am
FC ~ 22ppm
CC ~ Zilch
(I think I had zilch last night as well ~ I find it hard to believe that it jumped up on the 1 test I had poor lighting and passed all others)
So I have passed the OCLT & didn't lose FC's through the night ~ which would be great under normal circumstances...
except for the fact that I am still looking lagoony this morning ~ water cloudy
Seems most folks from what I have read here clear the cloudiness with ease and have difficulty with the OCLT (just an observation on my part ~ maybe I am not clicking the right threads to see the ones where cloudiness is last of the 3 to pass)
So with that I didn't add any morning Wonder Juice & will keep checking lvls throughout the day.
Overcast today... Set alarm for 5 am, because sunrise was 5:37 ~ but I didn't need to get out of bed until 6 ~ there is no sun yet today...
In my head I am thinking I need to let that filter continue filtering ~ but there could be a possibility my sand is "buggared up" (New Sand this year), clumping in the tank. I am well within the week I have read it can take filters to clear the cloudiness.
What do you think I should do based on the above?
keep filtering, and maintaining shock level. The corner is there. Just a little more POP for you. Green will be blue soon. Cloudy, but blue. Hang in there. You're doing great.
I luckily haven't had green ~ just cloudy and I am hanging in ~ kids have been truly patient while we adjust ( even when they saw enough bleach to float the Queen Mary) so I caught a bit of luck in that department.
9:45 am ~ Overcast day / 66 degrees / brightened up for about an hour and a half
Have had no real sun to speak of so I let the pool go from 6 until now.
FC~17.5
CC~0
Didn't do the cya test just because I am hoping at some point today to get a bit of sun to put my back to to do it.
Have had no real sun to speak of so I let the pool go from 6 until now.
FC~17.5
CC~0
Didn't do the cya test just because I am hoping at some point today to get a bit of sun to put my back to to do it.
Good OCLT
Dealing with the cloudiness.....
Well, because of the way that your new filter was started (without a rinse), I kinda think you should do a deep cleaning just to be sure nothing is amiss in there. Here's some good instructions: my-sand-is-channeled-how-to-fix-it-t7626.html
If all is confirmed well with the filter, then you could try adding some DE.
Instructions:
pool-school/add_de_to_a_sand_filter
I'm really not sure which one to suggest you try first. But, if it was my pool/filter, I'd try the cleaning first. Maybe someone else will chime in.
Dealing with the cloudiness.....
Well, because of the way that your new filter was started (without a rinse), I kinda think you should do a deep cleaning just to be sure nothing is amiss in there. Here's some good instructions: my-sand-is-channeled-how-to-fix-it-t7626.html
If all is confirmed well with the filter, then you could try adding some DE.
Instructions:
pool-school/add_de_to_a_sand_filter
I'm really not sure which one to suggest you try first. But, if it was my pool/filter, I'd try the cleaning first. Maybe someone else will chime in.
Question on cleaning this filter it's a Titan Series AC 247IGSM (side mount)
Large unions on the side...which I don't really want to remove.
Can I relieve pressure and take the head off and drop the hose in from the top or do I need to remove side unions & if I do have to remove the side unions what is going to keep my sand from falling out from them when I introduce the water from the garden hose?
Large unions on the side...which I don't really want to remove.
Can I relieve pressure and take the head off and drop the hose in from the top or do I need to remove side unions & if I do have to remove the side unions what is going to keep my sand from falling out from them when I introduce the water from the garden hose?
All you have to do is stop the pump and the pressure will go to zero. You really don't need to worry about draining it. Just shut the valves off and then you can remove the top and run the hose in there.
Did you just pass the OCLT last night? If so it's going to take a while to clear up.
I apologize if there's more going on. I didn't reread the whole thread.
Did you just pass the OCLT last night? If so it's going to take a while to clear up.
I apologize if there's more going on. I didn't reread the whole thread.
I just went a head and went for it as I had a hose close.
I undid hoses and redirected them (once I checked they weren't filled with nasties to the pool.
Took the top off / left the unions on the side.
Visually the sand looked free and it wasn't "dirty" just cloudy which I expected for 2 reasons ~ pool water & a just of sand with water is going to contain haze.
Got my daughters garden rake has a softer slope tip on the handle (where you hang it in garage).
Gingerly poked it down through and felt no additional resistance than one would expect when poking through waterlogged sand.
Poked around a bit. Moved sand around.
Stuck my arm in and put my hand down through the sand until I could go no farther without risking the pipe shifting. I didn't feel anything other than sand evenly dispersed in the vessel.
Introduced hose after covering standpipe with a baggie, aluminum foil another baggie and a tupperwear keeper container that was just the right size.
Water flowed to the top ~ nothing of real substance came out ~ a few jiggers from the birch tree a bug & cloudy water.
I let the water flow a bit, placing end of hose as deeply as I could cautiously in the sandbed.
Re-plumbed
Backwashed as I know we had to backwash when we first ran it & rinses for 2 minutes.
I think this filter is working correctly.
I did pass OCLT last night
We have no sun today
AT 6:00 am my FC matched my FC reading from last night of 22
9:45 & 11:45 today it is holding at 17.5 (it did get bright a few times
I know I moved a cr4pton of dirt around this pool and 8 ton of river rock when french-draining
I still have massive amounts of dirt to move.
It was 100 plus degrees and windy when I did this for a week sometimes moving earth 15 hours a day (not too shabby for a 43 year old gal)
So I am assuming that earth debris although not visible on the pool bottom (I can see the bottom) is a factor in this.
I am guessing the filter just needs time to do it's job.
Do you concur with what I have written as far as filter working as it should, massive ground moving etc?
I undid hoses and redirected them (once I checked they weren't filled with nasties to the pool.
Took the top off / left the unions on the side.
Visually the sand looked free and it wasn't "dirty" just cloudy which I expected for 2 reasons ~ pool water & a just of sand with water is going to contain haze.
Got my daughters garden rake has a softer slope tip on the handle (where you hang it in garage).
Gingerly poked it down through and felt no additional resistance than one would expect when poking through waterlogged sand.
Poked around a bit. Moved sand around.
Stuck my arm in and put my hand down through the sand until I could go no farther without risking the pipe shifting. I didn't feel anything other than sand evenly dispersed in the vessel.
Introduced hose after covering standpipe with a baggie, aluminum foil another baggie and a tupperwear keeper container that was just the right size.
Water flowed to the top ~ nothing of real substance came out ~ a few jiggers from the birch tree a bug & cloudy water.
I let the water flow a bit, placing end of hose as deeply as I could cautiously in the sandbed.
Re-plumbed
Backwashed as I know we had to backwash when we first ran it & rinses for 2 minutes.
I think this filter is working correctly.
I did pass OCLT last night
We have no sun today
AT 6:00 am my FC matched my FC reading from last night of 22
9:45 & 11:45 today it is holding at 17.5 (it did get bright a few times
I know I moved a cr4pton of dirt around this pool and 8 ton of river rock when french-draining
I still have massive amounts of dirt to move.
It was 100 plus degrees and windy when I did this for a week sometimes moving earth 15 hours a day (not too shabby for a 43 year old gal)
So I am assuming that earth debris although not visible on the pool bottom (I can see the bottom) is a factor in this.
I am guessing the filter just needs time to do it's job.
Do you concur with what I have written as far as filter working as it should, massive ground moving etc?
Yep, it could be all the dirt and stuff you're moving around contributing.
The filter sounds good, too.
You can try the DE in the filter (link in post above) and some skimmer socks!
And then, as you said, it will take time to filter it clear.
Maintain shock level until you meet the three criteria to be done shocking. See red lines in my sig.
Also, based on your test results, you can swim up to shock level for your CYA if you can clearly see the botton. Rinse off (suits too) after a swim.
That should tickle some kiddos
The filter sounds good, too.
You can try the DE in the filter (link in post above) and some skimmer socks!
And then, as you said, it will take time to filter it clear.
Maintain shock level until you meet the three criteria to be done shocking. See red lines in my sig.
Also, based on your test results, you can swim up to shock level for your CYA if you can clearly see the botton. Rinse off (suits too) after a swim.
That should tickle some kiddos
Ok had some brightness in the day ~ in the literal sense ~ so I retested my cya
I wish my son had been here so I could get a 2nd opinion on the reading, but he's out for the evening.
I am going to say it's 50.
I processed the solution & ran it through 3 different times & I am seeing it as 50.
Which I was confident with my reading Friday, but after passing the OCLT and continually having 0 CC, checking the filter for channeled sand ~ brushing like a fiend all of those incidences combined merited another look at the cya when I had brightness to do so.
I figure I can safely assume it is somewhere between the 2 figures & 4 fc's could make the difference in allowing the filter to work and clearing the water.
All testing data last night and today with our lack of sunny skies and hot weather allows me to know there is nothing in there currently eating away at my chlorine. My lvls have held pretty consistently since 10:00 pm.
It's swimable ~ bottom visible ~ so I am not freaked out, I would just like clear pretty water & I think it's going to take the filter some time to catch up with the finally correct chemistry.
I wish my son had been here so I could get a 2nd opinion on the reading, but he's out for the evening.
I am going to say it's 50.
I processed the solution & ran it through 3 different times & I am seeing it as 50.
Which I was confident with my reading Friday, but after passing the OCLT and continually having 0 CC, checking the filter for channeled sand ~ brushing like a fiend all of those incidences combined merited another look at the cya when I had brightness to do so.
I figure I can safely assume it is somewhere between the 2 figures & 4 fc's could make the difference in allowing the filter to work and clearing the water.
All testing data last night and today with our lack of sunny skies and hot weather allows me to know there is nothing in there currently eating away at my chlorine. My lvls have held pretty consistently since 10:00 pm.
It's swimable ~ bottom visible ~ so I am not freaked out, I would just like clear pretty water & I think it's going to take the filter some time to catch up with the finally correct chemistry.
Making what I would call slight progress on the cloudy water. Sunday we finished moving/blading the last of the huge dirt pile from the installation ~ so while I have finish work with that (smoothing / raking) I do feel not having huge winds of dirt debris blowing will allow me to clear the water up. We swam last night ~I am keeping the water level at shock level (no cc's / passed several OCLTs) but we are able to see to the bottom our feet, dive sticks had a little gritty debris in the middle that I am assuming is settled dust from the wind that carried moving earth across the pool could have been dust bowl/ algae combo, regardless its out of there.
Had to kick up the volume this morning in Wonder Juice. Temps and humidity through the roof our hottest day of the year is what they are predicting and we have had some serious heat already ~ figured quite a bit will burn off while I am at the office so I kicked it up to about 23/24 and will check it tonight when I get home.
Have definitely established my CYA is 50. So I am moving forward in orderly fashion ~ just need the waters to clear up & that massive dirt pile being moved I think is the ticket to that along with sweeping, vacuuming & keeping the pool at constant shock level. Have a bit of hope that by the end of the weekend we could have a sparkle, if not I'll keep on keeping on until we do.
Had to kick up the volume this morning in Wonder Juice. Temps and humidity through the roof our hottest day of the year is what they are predicting and we have had some serious heat already ~ figured quite a bit will burn off while I am at the office so I kicked it up to about 23/24 and will check it tonight when I get home.
Have definitely established my CYA is 50. So I am moving forward in orderly fashion ~ just need the waters to clear up & that massive dirt pile being moved I think is the ticket to that along with sweeping, vacuuming & keeping the pool at constant shock level. Have a bit of hope that by the end of the weekend we could have a sparkle, if not I'll keep on keeping on until we do.