Best liner manufacturer?

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No, none at all. They have great videos and a lot of information, but they seem to do a pretty high volume and from those on this forum, it can be challenging to get parts at times if something gets messed up in an order. I am not able to speak to the quality of their liners, you will need to call and research them. I am a DIY'er, literally do anything myself I can. For my pool, I had a pool guy order a quality liner from GLI via a local distributor, and I had the pool guy pour my cantilever coping. Those two things are the first thing you notice in a pool, so I got the best I could.
 
SBall said:
No, none at all. They have great videos and a lot of information, but they seem to do a pretty high volume and from those on this forum, it can be challenging to get parts at times if something gets messed up in an order. I am not able to speak to the quality of their liners, you will need to call and research them. I am a DIY'er, literally do anything myself I can. For my pool, I had a pool guy order a quality liner from GLI via a local distributor, and I had the pool guy pour my cantilever coping. Those two things are the first thing you notice in a pool, so I got the best I could.
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That’s the way to do it.. besides being eye candy, a liner is the waterproofing member. & water is a structural element to a liner pool.
 
Ok,

Found some further information from a few links that might help someone...
1. Good TFP Thread:
Choosing a pool liner brand, thickness, and pattern

2. List of Pool liner manufactures including all the ones mentioned in this thread excluding poolwarehouse.
Pool Liner Manufacturers

3. Basic Liner Information:
What To Know When Choosing a Pool Liner | Swimming Pool Blog - Tips, Care, and Installation Tips, Care, and Installation
Inground Vinyl Pool Liner Thickness: Basics, Costs, and Options

Really just want a good liner that I don't have to go through a dealer to get.

Still researching...
 
It’s hard to get them to open up about raw materials etc.. it takes work to nail it down.

some are revealed in msds papers & independent
White papers..

the white papers have a very heavy price tag, not realistic to expect an enthusiast to purchase.

The dealers who really know their stuff are generally excited to discuss & unfortunately many have no idea.

Generally when the same pattern is available through several companies but with a different pattern title - avoid it.
 
PoolguyinCT said:
It’s hard to get them to open up about raw materials etc.. it takes work to nail it down.

some are revealed in msds papers & independent
White papers..

the white papers have a very heavy price tag, not realistic to expect an enthusiast to purchase.

The dealers who really know their stuff are generally excited to discuss & unfortunately many have no idea.

Generally when the same pattern is available through several companies but with a different pattern title - avoid it.
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Poolguy!!, that is an extremely helpful comment..."Generally when the same pattern is available through several companies but with a different pattern title - avoid it." I have seen a tile pattern at at least 3 manufactures. I would assume that this is because there is a 4th party involved and this is a mass produced cheap liner? So say there is ACME Liner Manufacture, the dealer, and me, thats the 3 parties. The 4th would be some other foreign manufacture that ACME is buying a few patterns from?

MSDS Sheet, great advice, I'll ask for that.
 

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caliskier said:
Poolguy!!, that is an extremely helpful comment..."Generally when the same pattern is available through several companies but with a different pattern title - avoid it." I have seen a tile pattern at at least 3 manufactures. I would assume that this is because there is a 4th party involved and this is a mass produced cheap liner? So say there is ACME Liner Manufacture, the dealer, and me, thats the 3 parties. The 4th would be some other foreign manufacture that ACME is buying a few patterns from?

MSDS Sheet, great advice, I'll ask for that.
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Focus on the repetitive pattern not the manufacturer. Manufacturers buy and weld the sheet material, some have good & junk material in the same brochure. & some only buy good stuff when inexpensive material is not available.

Nobody is required to furnish you with documents, liners are not a regulated product.

& the docs are from raw good processors - way up the food chain before the product becomes a pool liner.

Look at the brands named earlier- there is no junk in those lines, if you need to buy through a dealer, so be it..

& your welcome.

Btw - where do you live?
 
WOW, to your point!!! Each of these manufactures (including Merlin, GLI and Vynall) had the same one we have been looking at…
Loop-loc even had an icon to say which were “by Loop-Loc”. Loop-Loc actually did not carry the one I am talking about
Manufacture List: Pool Liner Manufacturers
Each of these below is the same liner

http://www.dovervinyl.com/images/linerstemplates/margate.jpg
http://glipoolproducts.com/core/media/media.nl?id=790597&c=760191&h=bf3e8cbfa874d7017dfc
http://www.kaydenliners.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Rustic.jpg
https://lathampool.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/latham-pool-liner-mountain-top-blue-mosaic.jpg
Siesta Key Tile

http://www.pegasus-products.com/wp-content/gallery/pegasus-in-ground-liners/Mountain-Top-20_27.jpg
http://www.precisionvinylcorp.com/images/mountaintop.jpg

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PoolguyinCT said:
Focus on the repetitive pattern not the manufacturer. Manufacturers buy and weld the sheet material, some have good & junk material in the same brochure. & some only buy good stuff when inexpensive material is not available.

Nobody is required to furnish you with documents, liners are not a regulated product.

& the docs are from raw good processors - way up the food chain before the product becomes a pool liner.

Look at the brands named earlier- there is no junk in those lines, if you need to buy through a dealer, so be it..

& your welcome.

Btw - where do you live?
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OOOOOOOOH, ok ignorance. The manufactures are buying the preprinted material and welding it together. Got it. Ok, so why would that lead us to believe a common pattern is made of cheap material?

I live in Oklahoma City, OK
 
caliskier said:
WOW, to your point!!! Each of these manufactures (including Merlin, GLI and Vynall) had the same one we have been looking at…
Loop-loc even had an icon to say which were “by Loop-Loc”. Loop-Loc actually did not carry the one I am talking about
Manufacture List: Pool Liner Manufacturers
Each of these below is the same liner

http://www.dovervinyl.com/images/linerstemplates/margate.jpg
http://glipoolproducts.com/core/media/media.nl?id=790597&c=760191&h=bf3e8cbfa874d7017dfc
http://www.kaydenliners.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Rustic.jpg
https://lathampool.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/latham-pool-liner-mountain-top-blue-mosaic.jpg
Siesta Key Tile

http://www.pegasus-products.com/wp-content/gallery/pegasus-in-ground-liners/Mountain-Top-20_27.jpg
http://www.precisionvinylcorp.com/images/mountaintop.jpg

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OOOOOOOOH, ok ignorance. The manufactures are buying the preprinted material and welding it together. Got it. Ok, so why would that lead us to believe a common pattern is made of cheap material?
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This is the perfect time to say ‘ dime a dozen ‘ ..

I believe it because I have seen 3rd party analysis & accelerated fading and short service spans in the field and i am tuned into industry grapevines.
 
PoolguyinCT said:
This is the perfect time to say ‘ dime a dozen ‘ ..

I believe it because I have seen 3rd party analysis & accelerated fading and short service spans in the field and i am tuned into industry grapevines.
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So poolguy, thanks for the help… Let me circle back and summarize…. Correct as needed
Pool liner Manufactures that we have discussed Merlin, Vynalworks, GLI, those in this list…Pool Liner Manufacturers do not actually make the liner material, they only cut and piece together (weld) the material to make the pool liner. When you see a repetitive pattern across multiple manufactures, its best to stay away because this pattern is mass produced and being that, its probably made with cheaper material. Try to find patterns that are exclusive to or only limited to a few manufactures this would increase the likelihood of getting a quality liner. I the average consumer would not have the information you would have to determine quality, obviously.
You are helping me get there….
If I have to go to a dealer, I want to make all the measurements myself, provide those and have them ship me the liner. Is that reasonable or are they going to have to come to my house and measure it?
 
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