Anyone using ZeoSand in a Hayward Sand Filter with Good Results?

[Chevydude057]

Keep in mind that the sand filter will work and is all you need. Vac and backwash are needed when the conditions are a mess. My pool is 40 foot from a hay field on one side and 150 foot from corn on the other. Along with a few close trees that drop a copious amount of leaves during storms. So yes your sand will get your water clear without the DE or zeo or slimebag or cartridge upgrade.
filter 24/7 with skimmers working properly.

Do you have an automatic pool vacuum?

So here's my problem; when I run the filter, however it's circulating is pulling all the junk down onto the bottom of the pool. I've had a CC of zero for weeks now. I keep my FC high, and it averages between 6-8 and my CYA is 30.

But EVERYTIME my filter runs, I get junk settling on the bottom of the pool. The sand filter system has effectively been completely rebuilt (except for the pump itself). If I don't run the filter, no problem. The water is always clear, its just dirt, debris, and the occasional left or pollen stringer sink to the bottom.

I agree, the sand filter gets my water clear. But it dumps Crud on the bottom everytime that needs to be vacuumed. When I opened my pool this year it was green and full of leaves and junk(cover ripped). Yes, my filter properly helped turn my green pool cloudy, and then to clear.

If I don't run the filter, no problem, water stays clear, no junk accumulating on the bottom. If I run the filter with the slimebag, barely any junk. Maybe one small spec or two the size of a quarter, and a leaf or two that's fallen in. That's acceptable, IMO.

 

[sande005]

I'll go out on a limb here, and wonder if the issue is similar to what I had. A filter that was undersized for the pool, with a pump that was oversized (at least for the filter). I never got sand or Zeo (when I used it) in the pool, but it was very hard to clear up haze, dead algae, pollen, etc. The pump was just forcing stuff through the sand, and back into the pool. Yes, I bought every magic potion the pool store had. It was people here that pointed to the issue when the filter finally broke, and (gasp!) my pool store said the same - the other company that built it was notorious around here for that issue. Likely a properly sized sand filter would have resolved the issue....but rather than take a bit of a chance, I switched to a properly sized cartridge filter...and pool life has been fabulous ever since. Yeah, the cleaning is a bit of a chore - but for me, it is only once a year, and no more messy than the deep cleaning I kept trying to do on the sand filter. It may just be time to bite the bullet and make the change.

 

[Darin]

Do you have an automatic pool vacuum?

no, just manual.
manual vac once or twice a week (for normal weather) after initial start up does not justify an automatic.
After storms it may take two or three vacs over 2 days. leaves, leaves, leaves...
I think that you should put your filter in bypass mode to prove to yourself what is going on inside your filter. If after a day or so (24/7) you don't have anything on the floor then get a different sand.
About 8 or 9 years ago i replaced my sand. We have a sand mine here in town so i went and bought a few 100 lb bags of unwashed pool size sand for $5 a piece. I have deep cleaned my filter maybe twice since then with no other problems.

 

[Chevydude057]

I'll go out on a limb here, and wonder if the issue is similar to what I had. A filter that was undersized for the pool, with a pump that was oversized (at least for the filter). I never got sand or Zeo (when I used it) in the pool, but it was very hard to clear up haze, dead algae, pollen, etc. The pump was just forcing stuff through the sand, and back into the pool. Yes, I bought every magic potion the pool store had. It was people here that pointed to the issue when the filter finally broke, and (gasp!) my pool store said the same - the other company that built it was notorious around here for that issue. Likely a properly sized sand filter would have resolved the issue....but rather than take a bit of a chance, I switched to a properly sized cartridge filter...and pool life has been fabulous ever since. Yeah, the cleaning is a bit of a chore - but for me, it is only once a year, and no more messy than the deep cleaning I kept trying to do on the sand filter. It may just be time to bite the bullet and make the change.

I was wondering about this, but I've been to all the local pool stores to look at the setups they sell, and I've spoken to Hayward directly (a waste of time) and my 1HP pump is actually on the undersized side for the 150lb filter. They sell a 1.5HP pump regularly now with the same setup. All the pool equipment is 10+ years old now, I would have thought something would have actually broken if it was the case, but I could be wrong.

no, just manual.
manual vac once or twice a week (for normal weather) after initial start up does not justify an automatic.
After storms it may take two or three vacs over 2 days. leaves, leaves, leaves...
I think that you should put your filter in bypass mode to prove to yourself what is going on inside your filter. If after a day or so (24/7) you don't have anything on the floor then get a different sand.
About 8 or 9 years ago i replaced my sand. We have a sand mine here in town so i went and bought a few 100 lb bags of unwashed pool size sand for $5 a piece. I have deep cleaned my filter maybe twice since then with no other problems.

bypass like, recirculate on the multiport?

 

[sande005]

Yes, same as recirculate.