Above ground pool liner keeps falling in - every 1-2 years for last 6 years!

[Hawkeye83]

Hello All, pretty much sick of replacing pool liners. I've installed 3 or 4 now in just 5-6 years. Just looking for ideas.
This past year, I used liner lock to hold the liner up, still fell in. Pool level is currently 29" deep. Was probably more like 34" deep most of the winter. Bottom of the skimmer is around 40", so the level is like 10-12" below the bottom of the skimmer. Is this tool low? Low enough to be the sole reason the liner would fall in?

So my "list" of potential reasons for this liner falling in are:
- water level too low
- buying the wrong type of liner. I've been buying a universal liner ("unibead" - something like this Swimline Unibead 18' Round Boulder Swirl 52 in. Depth Above Ground Pool Liner, 20 Mil | In The Swim). The pool is a Johnny Weissenmueller type, with a J-track that the liner is pushed into. Should I go to a different type of liner bead? I've also been thinking about a fold over type liner that clips over the top of the pool.
- could it fall in if the cove (at the bottom base of the pool walls) is not "proper?" I do have the little angled pieces installed to create the cove, but can't say for sure if they are "proper." Would the liner fall in without a "good" cove?

I'm thinking of having the local pool place do it this year. Will cost twice as much but hopefully last.

Any input welcomed!

 

[kne]

I'm pretty sure I have read that the Johnny W liners are not compatabile with normal liners.

YOUR ESTHER WILLIAMS OR JOHNNY WEISSMULLER POOL IS NO LONGER IN PRODUCTION. YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW THOSE POOLS REQUIRE A SPECIAL BEADING ON THE LINER; REGULAR LINER BEAD WILL NOT WORK WITH YOUR POOL.

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I've never deep dived into it, so not sure it's all the Jonny pools, but I remember reading it before.

 

[noeffort]

I just repaired my Johnny W Safari 10 x 30 pool. I installed an overlap liner. It had the coping for a beaded liner ,but in I don't trust the beaded type in the winter. I've had the pool for 30 years and in that time have replaced two walls and two liners (3rd liner now installed). Last liner lasted 15 years! The wall are not available anymore so I did a patch job hoping to get a few more years life of the pool. Probably would have cost 6-7k for a repair if I could even get someone to do it.

 

[noeffort]

I'm pretty sure I have read that the Johnny W liners are not compatabile with normal liners.

YOUR ESTHER WILLIAMS OR JOHNNY WEISSMULLER POOL IS NO LONGER IN PRODUCTION. YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW THOSE POOLS REQUIRE A SPECIAL BEADING ON THE LINER; REGULAR LINER BEAD WILL NOT WORK WITH YOUR POOL.

Esther Williams & Johnny Weissmuller Liners FROM | swimming pool discounters

ESTHER WILLIAMS/JOHNNY WEISSMULLER Our Custom Made special beaded replacement liners are made of 100% virgin material that is Vulcanized to the highest possible tolerances. With vacuum sealing, high pressure heat bonding and superior lap welded seams (unlike butt-welded seams) this liner will...

swimmingpool-discounters.com

I've never deep dived into it, so not sure it's all the Jonny pools, but I remember reading it before.

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