15 June 2024 This is like starting up a chemical plant!

[newdude]

I'll be buying again from them. Probably at least an RJ 45 to stay with the 2X TFP recommendation.

I would have gone 3X in NY in a heartbeat if it was available for me. In a hot climate I would seriously consider a 4X. I run 24/7 so don't care about needing to run the pump longer with a smaller unit, but upsizing costs considerably less than the lifespan gained. The cells are only going to get more expensive over time and the ROI is very helpful in the long run.

 

[setsailsoon]

I would have gone 3X in NY in a heartbeat if it was available for me. In a hot climate I would seriously consider a 4X. I run 24/7 so don't care about needing to run the pump longer with a smaller unit, but upsizing costs considerably less than the lifespan gained. The cells are only going to get more expensive over time and the ROI is very helpful in the long run.

Couldn't agree more Dude! I will say that my previous pool was a little less than half this size and after 3 years the RJ 30+ remained at the original settings. I'm sure that changed after I sold the house but it looks like they're still running it now 6 years total on the unit. Back when I bought there was way less history with the Circupool brand but I think they've now established themselves as a reliable supplier and the only other choice would be for compatibility with automation and pump features which are not really important enough to me. I can make the automation work great for any brand with my home brew automation or Intellicenter (back up for me if I can't get @Katodude 's system to work for me)

 

[setsailsoon]

It’s super easy to do. It has also gotten easier lately as the control boards have improved. Lots of us can help here in case you get stuck.

I would recommend when you do your plumbing to plumb in a bypass and manifold so that you have add in a bunch of probes as necessary. Look at something like @MyAZPool has. He probably has the nicest looking plumbing of anybody. Sensors are getting better and cheaper and you would want to future proof yourself to be able to add whatever comes out.

Kato, can you please point me to the best place to start with the automation that will perform the following:

• All normal controls for a pool/spa type pool
• Remote over internet as well as local wifi control from phone
• Solar panel control capability to bypass during rain or clouds and adjust delta T as needed

Chris

 

[setsailsoon]

Folks,

One more question please. I used a robot last two years in previous pool before we sold the house. Things seemed to be evolving last year we had the pool. Biggest question was about lifespan. Is 5-7 years still reasonable? I'll be calling Margaret again but I'd like to get TFP'ers view first. @Jimrahbe how are your robots performing?

Chris

 

[setsailsoon]

One of the things I always wished I could find was current best pricing sources for equipment. Changes of course all the time but at least I could be sure I was getting quotes from places at least one TFP'er had found to be competitive. Here's where I am at the moment:

Equipment		By Others	By Others	Approx $				By Others	By Others	Pool Design Docs	Best Price
Main Pool				$3,000.00						Pentair 5 hp commercial vs	Polytech
Gas Heater				$2,500.00						Pentair 400K propane	Poolsupplydelivery.com
LED Lights				$3,000.00						LED probably J&E
Filter				$1,500.00						400 sq ft or more	Poolsupplydelivery.com
Automation				$3,000.00						Intellicenter Load Center w/ custom electronics	Polytech
Spa Jet Pump				$1,000.00						1.5 hp 2 speed	Inyopools.com
Salt System				$1,650.00						Circupool RJ45 or 60	Discountsaltpools.com

 

[Jimrahbe]

Biggest question was about lifespan. Is 5-7 years still reasonable? I'll be calling Margaret again but I'd like to get TFP'ers view first. @Jimrahbe how are your robots performing?

Chris,

Based more on what I see here at TFP, it appears that the newer S200 "Style" robots have a lifespan of 3 to 5 years. A lot less than it used to be.

My latest Robot is an EVO and I like it better than my S200 Style robots, but.... I have no clue how long it will last.

I consider my robots tools, I do not name them.. When they wear out, I consider it an expense, and just buy new one..

See this review... New EVO 614i Robot Pool Cleaner Review

Thanks,

Jim R.

 

[JamesW]

poolsupplydelivery.com

Has anybody had experience with them they'd be willing to share?

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1680 Fruitville Rd. Ste 532. Sarasota, FL 34236.

Ultra Pool Cleaning - Sarasota, FL

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BBB has received a pattern of complaints concerning non delivery of products. Consumers report that they are not receiving items they have purchased from this company. They are unable to get refunds.

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The business website, aquasupercenter.com, was created 7/1/2005 and was recently updated on 2/5/2020. There is no identifiable ownership of the website.

CEO of this business also claims to be CEO of WaterClubUSA.com (Water Club Pool Store) with 2 retail store locations in Sarasota. FL. The Water Club of America, Inc.

In September 2020 and again in December 2022, BBB contacted the business requesting information as to why the business believes the customers are filing the complaints, and what actions the business has taken to help eliminate the causes of complaints. BBB has not received a response to date.

Effective December 2022, mail is being returned from this business as undeliverable.

CEO Facebook page states this business is now offering Pool Cleaning services which required State Contractor license, no such license has been found.

1680 Fruitville Rd STE 515. Sarasota, FL 34236-8511

Location of This Business. 1680 Fruitville Rd STE 515, Sarasota, FL 34236-8511

BBB File Opened: 7/26/2019

Years in Business: 6

Business Started: 9/15/2017

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Type of Entity:Limited Liability Company (LLC)

Alternate Business Name. Ecom Companies, LLC

Business Management

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[JamesW]

Looks like a scammer who changes names often to avoid negative reviews.

 

[JamesW]

Aqua Supercenter

Has anyone heard of anything about Aqua Supercenter? Contact Us I made an order with them Mid-September. The order is still in waiting to be fulfilled status. Their help desk/contact us number is 'no longer in service' and emails to their help desk go unanswered. They billed my credit card...

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[JamesW]

Aqua Supercenter - Sarasota, FL

Specialties: Aqua Supercenter is a 17 year old, award winning and leading Online Swimming Pool Supply Supercenter in USA. We sell everything from your typical Pool Pumps, Motors, Filters to Pool Floats, Loungers, Slides as well as over 80,000 Pool Product Parts. Established in 2004. *...

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[JamesW]

Looks like a person who likes to open tons of different companies and take orders but never delivers.

Their claims of being a top retailer are complete nonsense.

SmithCO Ventures, LLC owns and operates a network of E-Commerce websites, domains, real estate, other miscellaneous assets such as management / ownership of public stock market investments; in addition to multiple private ‘venture capital’ style investments in retail, e-commerce, home delivery businesses amongst a few other private company
investments.

SMITHCO VENTURES, LLC was filed on 24 Apr 2020 as Limited Liability Company type, registered at 1680 FRUITVILLE RD. SUITE 532 SARASOTA, FL 34236 . It's Document Number is L20000112276, and FEI/EIN No. is 85-0889571 . The state for this company is Florida.There are 2 directors of this company. The agent name of this company is: SMITH, CHRISTOPHER , and company's status is ACTIVE now.

Smithco Ventures, Llc has been operating for 3 years 8 months, and 22 days.

I’m here to help other Ecommerce companies.

I’ve been a full time Ecommerce Entrepreneur since 2004.

I’ve founded & built 4 different ecommerce companies that all became Internet Retailer Top 500 Companies (top 500 largest by online annual revenue) as well as a Inc. Magazine INC500 3 time business owner and 5 time INC5000 business.

I do know programming basics, Shopify, liquid, asp.net, etc..

All the businesses have been 7 or 8 figure businesses within the first 24 months.

I’ve never taken in any investors to date nor have I had any family money (I support my family).

I’m available to help with design, strategy, financials, marketplaces/marketing, etc. - Also part of the goal behind this is leveraging my team of Ecommerce professionals who know how to write SEO & sales descriptions.

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[JamesW]

The person has created over 60 companies.

Do you really think that they care about any of them?

They just make tons of companies and they make up a bunch of awards and qualifications that are completely worthless.

 

[Katodude]

Kato, can you please point me to the best place to start with the automation that will perform the following:

Start here:

GitHub - tagyoureit/nodejs-poolController: An application to control pool equipment from various manufacturers.

An application to control pool equipment from various manufacturers. - tagyoureit/nodejs-poolController

github.com

It’s incredibly easy to set up. I am not sure about the solar settings, I might need to double check that.

It also has a HomeAssistant integration if you use that stuff as well.

The most expensive component is probably the box you mount it in. Altelix makes the best ones. Make sure you get a Din Rail one.

I am on my 3rd rebuild and can do it pretty quickly now if you need help. I am probably about 45 min down the road from you.

 

[JamesW]

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[setsailsoon]

Looks like a scammer who changes names often to avoid negative reviews.

Yep sure looks like it. Thanks James!

 

[setsailsoon]

Chris,

Based more on what I see here at TFP, it appears that the newer S200 "Style" robots have a lifespan of 3 to 5 years. A lot less than it used to be.

My latest Robot is an EVO and I like it better than my S200 Style robots, but.... I have no clue how long it will last.

I consider my robots tools, I do not name them.. When they wear out, I consider it an expense, and just buy new one..

See this review... New EVO 614i Robot Pool Cleaner Review

Thanks,

Jim R.

Thanks much Jim. Very thorough review and the fact that you're still happy with it is a plus. So I'll put it on the short list.

Chris

 

[kimkats]

Well we know who you are NOT ordering from!!!

Yes that color does look a LOT like the other one. You can't go wrong with it IF they installers are top shelf!

Let's ask Matt @JoyfulNoise his thoughts on pool cleaners!

 

[StuartBound]

• Spa jets. My previous pool used the eductor-type that had a manual suction control mounted around the spa. I plan to use them for this pool. Any recommendations from people? I'm leaning toward waterway plastics.

HeyChris I have only seen these online but they look interesting.

JETARRAY® INLINE THERAPY JETS - Sultan Products

The All-New JetArray® therapy jet delivers better action than any standard jet.

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Also i am looking at this Muffler device to eliminate the noise of the Venturi action and the need for a blower. I think it goes on the raised spa beam area where the round dial adjustment devices used to go.

Airport - Paramount Pool & Spa Systems

The Paramount Pool & Spa Systems’ Air-Port is easy to install, greatly improves the efficiency of the spa air intake line, and provides the customer with a quieter spa experience by reducing the noise created by air intake points

www.1paramount.com

 

[setsailsoon]

Start here:

GitHub - tagyoureit/nodejs-poolController: An application to control pool equipment from various manufacturers.

An application to control pool equipment from various manufacturers. - tagyoureit/nodejs-poolController

github.com

It’s incredibly easy to set up. I am not sure about the solar settings, I might need to double check that.

It also has a HomeAssistant integration if you use that stuff as well.

The most expensive component is probably the box you mount it in. Altelix makes the best ones. Make sure you get a Din Rail one.

I am on my 3rd rebuild and can do it pretty quickly now if you need help. I am probably about 45 min down the road from you.

Thanks much Dude! I'll read up on it later today. Waiting for call back from excavation sub... rain has pounded us and they're behind.

 

[setsailsoon]

Thanks much Dude! I'll read up on it later today. Waiting for call back from excavation sub... rain has pounded us and they're behind.

Dude,
Looks like this is intended to control an Intellicenter based system. I think I got a version of this running quite a while back when we were having "challenges" waiting for updates to Intellicenter. I'd like to bypass intellicenter completely... I'll still use a lot of the Pentair equipment such as their superb 5 hp pump (yes 5 is not a typo. It's massive). What would you recommend or is there a way to do this using nodejs without an Intellicenter based system? I have some time to get this up and running while I wait for concrete cure but I need to get after it soon or I'll have to buy the whole Intellicenter system. I have a Raspberry Pi board (~2yrs old) to experiment with now). Also have an Arduino based board and one that uses an ESP32.

Thanks much!

Chris