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    Spa light junction eliminate

    My spa light has a junction box the sits in the middle of the yard. It is an eye sore and a tripping hazard. I need to replace the spa light as it doesn't work (rusted water inside probably circa 1980s). Is there a way to eliminate this and marry up the two conduits below ground without having to replace the entire conduit?IMG_0533.JPG thanks!


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    Re: Spa light junction eliminate

    Short answer: no. I know I've seen pictures of flush-mounted boxes, so I googled and followed a link from an image to NEC Requirements for Installing Pools and Spas, Part 2 of 3

    For luminaires greater than 15V, the junction box must be at least [680.24(A)(2)]:

    4 in. above the ground or pool deck or not less than 8 in. above the maximum water level ( Fig. 2 ).

    4 ft from the inside wall of the pool, unless separated by a solid fence, wall, or other permanent barrier.

    For luminaires less than 15V, you can use a flush deck box if [680.24(A)(2)]:

    An approved potting compound prevents the entrance of moisture.

    The flush deck box is at least 4 ft from the inside wall of the pool.
    If your pool lighting is low voltage, then you could dig things up and install a flush mount.
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    Spa light junction eliminate

    What I want to do is to join the two conduits eliminate the junction and put in a light with a cord long enough to reach from the spa to electrical breaker panel at my equipment pad.

    Or if a junction is needed put it closer to the electrical panel instead of out in the yard without having to dig a whole new complete trench from the spa to the electric panel.


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    Re: Spa light junction eliminate

    You can put it close to the panel. The requirements are minimum measurements.

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    Re: Spa light junction eliminate

    You need a junction box on 120v lights but you can move it near your panel. Keep in mind that you must also run a new #8 ground wire in the conduit (if the conduit is a non-metallic material).

    The trouble you are going to have is splicing the existing conduit sections together and making them watertight if they are made of anything other than PVC.
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    Re: Spa light junction eliminate

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard320 View Post
    Short answer: no. I know I've seen pictures of flush-mounted boxes, so I googled and followed a link from an image to NEC Requirements for Installing Pools and Spas, Part 2 of 3



    If your pool lighting is low voltage, then you could dig things up and install a flush mount.
    What is the reasoning behind the 8 inch box height? I've seen this time and time again, and never truly understood the purpose behind the code.

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    Re: Spa light junction eliminate

    The conduit is flooded so the height eliminates the chance of water entering the area where the electrical splices were made.
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