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    Cost for 2 Pentair Magicbowl's $11,480?!?!

    Hey guys,

    We are putting in an in ground pool with a pool builder here in south florida on our new construction home. The pool has not begun construction yet, but very soon.

    We wanted to put in 2 of the pentair Magicbowls which are basically just waterbowls that also have a flickering light in them for at night. The pool builder said this will cost over $11,000? They said the 2 stone columns where it will sit cost $3300 and that parts will be another $8000 or so

    I see I can get these online with the motor for about $1000 a piece. So $2000 for 2 of them then $9,000 worth of installation costs? Seems VERY high. Anyone have any experience with these?

    Thanks

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    Re: Cost for 2 Pentair Magicbowl's $11,480?!?!

    That seems insane to me
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    Re: Cost for 2 Pentair Magicbowl's $11,480?!?!

    Seems insane to me too.

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    BTW I have never seen those before they look pretty cool.
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    Re: Cost for 2 Pentair Magicbowl's $11,480?!?!

    How about asking the PB to lay the pipe/electricity for them and you'll add them yourself later?

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    Re: Cost for 2 Pentair Magicbowl's $11,480?!?!

    Quote Originally Posted by YippeeSkippy View Post
    How about asking the PB to lay the pipe/electricity for them and you'll add them yourself later?

    Yippee
    This is what we did for our future waterfall. He stubbed the pipe up in the decking and that is all he is doing.

    I don't have any other good ideas but thought I'd chime in to say that those water bowls look AWESOME - MagicBowl™ Water Effects - YouTube
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    Re: Cost for 2 Pentair Magicbowl's $11,480?!?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Veccster View Post
    This is what we did for our future waterfall. He stubbed the pipe up in the decking and that is all he is doing.

    I don't have any other good ideas but thought I'd chime in to say that those water bowls look AWESOME - MagicBowl™ Water Effects - YouTube

    Thanks for the replies guys. ok so I asked him what it would cost to stub and lay the pipes for future installation. he said $350 per bowl. (DONE im fine with that price) but what is bothering me is this

    So he said $11,480
    $3300 for 24" columns
    $1500 for upgraded pool pump
    So that means the bowls+installation were $6,680??? I can buy them online for $1000 a piece!

    And correct me if im wrong, but once the piping is put into place the installation should be rather easy, no?

    Thanks all

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    Re: Cost for 2 Pentair Magicbowl's $11,480?!?!

    Check this site out- $711

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    Re: Cost for 2 Pentair Magicbowl's $11,480?!?!

    I am going to suggest that just because you can buy them online for a grand the pb may not be able to buy them for that through distribution. I cannot buy a lot of items from our distributors for the price found online.
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    Re: Cost for 2 Pentair Magicbowl's $11,480?!?!

    Lots of builders will price things they do not want to do very high. Sometimes it is easier than saying no.
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    Re: Cost for 2 Pentair Magicbowl's $11,480?!?!

    Quote Originally Posted by YippeeSkippy View Post
    Check this site out- $711

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    Yes sir that's the site I found as well. I said $1000 because you need the $350 motors for these as well.
    the price is wayyyyyy less than what they were charging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swimcmp View Post
    I am going to suggest that just because you can buy them online for a grand the pb may not be able to buy them for that through distribution. I cannot buy a lot of items from our distributors for the price found online.
    interesting you'd figure it would be cheaper as a builder who gets bulk pricing from volume.

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    Re: Cost for 2 Pentair Magicbowl's $11,480?!?!

    Quote Originally Posted by elwood58 View Post
    Lots of builders will price things they do not want to do very high. Sometimes it is easier than saying no.
    That is what I was thinking. Stone columns In Texas cost me $400 each for 9' tall ones plus the footing. I would learn how to do it yourself later. Maybe get your house mason to build the stone or do it yourself. 2' tall columns would take a novice a day on a weekend at most.



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    Re: Cost for 2 Pentair Magicbowl's $11,480?!?!

    Quote Originally Posted by swimcmp View Post
    I am going to suggest that just because you can buy them online for a grand the pb may not be able to buy them for that through distribution. I cannot buy a lot of items from our distributors for the price found online.
    even if he is buying them for 2 grand he is still trying to make a couple grand.
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    Re: Cost for 2 Pentair Magicbowl's $11,480?!?!

    Has anyone seen these in person? I like them and am thinking of adding them to my build. But no one seems to stock them.

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    Re: Cost for 2 Pentair Magicbowl's $11,480?!?!

    I havent seen them in person, but watched a youtube video on them! Our builder quoted us $3,000 to purchase and install these on columns.

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    Re: Cost for 2 Pentair Magicbowl's $11,480?!?!

    Thanks, i saw that 2.just wondering how they look. Most companies charge a 20% restocking fee plus shipping for returns. That's too much to throw away if i don't like them

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    Re: Cost for 2 Pentair Magicbowl's $11,480?!?!

    We are about to do a build and now may skip the real fire.

    It looks like pentair uses this technology.

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    time for more research and I would think the builder just doesn't want to do the work because he might not understand the technology or doesn't want to be responsible if you don't like it. Just my thought on the crazy price.

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