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    New guy Odd Pool

    Aloha, all. I made a 8x20x 8 foot deep pool from a shipping container and now have a few questions. It is above ground and with careful welding and sealing and sealing with a "Rhino - type lining. Please take a stab at a couple of them please

    1: It is 7000 gallons and since I am on solar and OFF the grid I found a waterways 1/8 HP pump that claims 2400 GPH, yet I see other 1/2 HP pumps claiming 1500 GPH and even others that are 1 hp claiming 2500 GPH. What is the difference, "pressure" at the rated output?

    2: I installed a Hayward star clear plus (looks like a fire Hydrant), and it is way oversized for the pump, and it gets dirty real fast and output of the pump is dramatically reduced. Is it that the pump is too small for the system (even GH are high) and does not have enough push to go through the filter when it gets a bit dirty?

    3: I draw from the bottom of the pool (at 8 foot depth) and run along horizontal 28' feet. Is this a good setup or am I loosing efficiency? Maybe put pump at the end of the pool where the suction side is 10 feet away and the discharge 28 feet away?

    4: BTW, would you say I have an above ground or inground pool. (as it is a little of both)

    Thanks
    Francis
    7800 Gal. 8' wide x 20' long x 7' deep
    Hayward 1200 Cartridge 7200 GPH, Waterworks 1/8 hp 2400 GPH
    Made from 20 Container Lined with "PolyUrea/Rhino Lining"
    Workshop, welding etc,+office+living area running off grid on 10kw PV

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    Re: New guy Odd Pool

    I would suggest reading this Hydraulics 101 thread in the Pumping Station section:

    hydraulics-101-have-you-lost-your-head-t915.html

    It will explain in great detail the nuances of pumps and pipes.

    You got any pics of this beast? Sounds neat.
    18' Round ABG (8000 gallon)
    Hayward X-Stream Cartridge Filter
    1.5hp Hayward PowerFlo Matrix Pump
    80 sq. ft. solar panels
    Goldline automated solar controller

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    Re: New guy Odd Pool

    Sounds like it's the filter that's too small, not the pump. A larger capacity filter will stay clean longer and reduce the pressure side head, giving you better water flow in between (less frequent) cleanings.

    As for plumbing efficiency, distance isn't critical. Straight lines are easy on the water flow. It's mostly the diameter of the pipe that makes a difference, followed by how tortured the path is (90's, complicated equipment, etc.).

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    Re: New guy Odd Pool

    Aloha, the filter is quite large, 120 sq ft. C1200 120 ft2 120 GPM 57,600 8 hours

    The 1/8 hp pump does not put out enough pressure to indicate on the gauge. I experimented with the inlet and 2 inlet variations and you are right, it does not seem to matter. I am going to try my 3/4 hp spa pump alongside the 1/8 during sunny days to help out (have to conserve electricity as I am on Solar, off grid).
    I will send a photo as soon as I figure out how.

    BTW, anyone have experience with the solar plastic pool heaters that sell for about $150 on ebay, they are 2'x20 long.

    Francis
    7800 Gal. 8' wide x 20' long x 7' deep
    Hayward 1200 Cartridge 7200 GPH, Waterworks 1/8 hp 2400 GPH
    Made from 20 Container Lined with "PolyUrea/Rhino Lining"
    Workshop, welding etc,+office+living area running off grid on 10kw PV

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    Re: New guy Odd Pool

    Lots of people here have set those up.

    The general rule is that you want 50% of your pools surface area in sq. ft. in panel area.

    Since yours is 8x20 (160 sq ft) you would want to start with 2 of those 2'x20' panels. Though, since your pool is 8 feet deep all around, that increases the mass of water a bit.

    The panels are easy enough to add on, so I still personally think you should start with 2 and see how it goes.

    I am just installing my solar system now.
    18' Round ABG (8000 gallon)
    Hayward X-Stream Cartridge Filter
    1.5hp Hayward PowerFlo Matrix Pump
    80 sq. ft. solar panels
    Goldline automated solar controller

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