This has probably been discussed many times on this board, what do you folks like for decking around the pool? I was thinking of doing bluestone and just DIY. Now I'm starting to lean to boomed concrete. I'm getting ready to order the fencing probably 2morro.
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Broomed concrete=NOT slippery. I do not know about bluestone. That is the number one thing you need to think about.
Pavers=easy to repair if needed.
So many things to think about.
Kim
Pavers=easy to repair if needed.
So many things to think about.
Kim
- Jul 16, 2012
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We have bluestone coping. Two different colors, one type on 3/4's of the pool and a generally darker color on the 1/4 over the cover pit end. We also have, essentially, stamped concrete decking. The bluestone ranges from hot on the lighter color to very hot on the darker colors. The cooler of which is hotter than the concrete, which gets fairly hot. All technical terms regarding how hot they feel of course. In my world very hot > hot > fairly hot. But bluestone decking looks awesome - my preference is for a geometric bluestone versus random, but that's just personal.
My two cents: I have brushed concrete...lots of it..and it is cool, non-slippery and it was certainly easier on the budget...but... I find it a little rougher on the tootsies than I wish it were.
I recall the cement around my childhood pools being smoother and easy to walk on.
Perhaps its my old age and old feet, I dunno? I just find that I want to have a pair of flip-flops at the pool edge for when I get in/out.
I recall the cement around my childhood pools being smoother and easy to walk on.
Perhaps its my old age and old feet, I dunno? I just find that I want to have a pair of flip-flops at the pool edge for when I get in/out.
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Question around the patio, probably going to end up doing broomed concrete for patio. Should I pour the concrete right up to the retaining wall touching it? I was thinking of probably pouring the patio slab and stopping it about a foot short of the wall and then filling that gap with decorative crushed stone for some drainage.
Question around the patio, probably going to end up doing broomed concrete for patio. Should I pour the concrete right up to the retaining wall touching it? I was thinking of probably pouring the patio slab and stopping it about a foot short of the wall and then filling that gap with decorative crushed stone for some drainage.
- Jul 16, 2012
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I wouldn't consider stopping the concrete short of the wall and having stone to be drainage. Where is the water really going? Under the concrete and to the base of the wall with no place to exit? That is not ideal as it creates very wet areas under your structures where the water can do bad things (like freeze and heave your deck and/or wall if you might have any cold weather in Boston). I think you need to look at your decking plan and water runoff plan as a whole for the entire project area. I couldn't identify any in your wall constructions pics but did you install perforated drain pipe wrapped in fabric with stone above it all along the back of the wall areas to allow the water that will build up behind it to exit via gravity to a lower portion of the yard? For the decking, same concept. If not, you could, over time, be looking at wall that slopes towards your pool. You will want to ensure you have a path for all rain that falls on the decking to travel away from the pool area, either by drains or a natural flow off to the grass on the outside of the decking. Our pool is on a larger slope but considerable effort (mind and body) was put into how water would move around the whole area.
For the deck, I'd lean (pardon the bad pun) towards having the concrete go right up to the wall to provide some additional stability (in case it wants to lean - if there is no drain pipe behind it.) That's only a partial fix though. The real fix (again if no pipe behind) is to excavate and put pipe behind it (massive effort but better now before landscaping). The decking should be sloped away from both the pool and wall with either a channel drain system installed or multiple round drains. The round drains are a very difficult to get the concrete properly sloped for in all areas though. Ask me how I know.
Sorry for the candor - especially if you did install drain pipe behind the wall.
For the deck, I'd lean (pardon the bad pun) towards having the concrete go right up to the wall to provide some additional stability (in case it wants to lean - if there is no drain pipe behind it.) That's only a partial fix though. The real fix (again if no pipe behind) is to excavate and put pipe behind it (massive effort but better now before landscaping). The decking should be sloped away from both the pool and wall with either a channel drain system installed or multiple round drains. The round drains are a very difficult to get the concrete properly sloped for in all areas though. Ask me how I know.
Sorry for the candor - especially if you did install drain pipe behind the wall.
I put perf piping wrapped all the way around the base of both walls.
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What about stopping concrete short of wall and putting in perf piping to move the water away?
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What about stopping concrete short of wall and putting in perf piping to move the water away?
- Jul 16, 2012
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Phew, great on the perf. pipe behind the wall. Yeah, that would work. You could use some river rock or other decorative stone atop a cheaper filler stone below if you wanted to. I don't think it's a bad look at all as long as drainage is part of it.
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This spring I'm putting in tech bloc Blu 60 mm pavers around the stairs area. The other 3 sides will be grass up to the coping and there will be 2' x 2' paver slabs about 18" off the coping around the 3 sides. Not for everyone but a thought. I have been on broomed concrete and it hurts my feet too. If I did concrete I'd go with a smooth finish. It will still grip good (I remember running on it at friends' houses as a teenager). Like mentioned the bluestone gets hot. IMO it dries quickly so even if you get it wet it will heat up again quicker. The concrete won't get as hot to begin with and should stay wet a little longer and thus keep it cooler. This is anecdotal though.
It is impossible to tell what the existing grade does on the other side of your pool, but you've definitely got the possibility of sheet flows coming down that slope on the right. Your perf drain behind the wall can help with that but only if you have it run to daylight somewhere off to the left. You'd want to grade the perf drain on the pool side of that wall the same direction. Perf drains aren't meant to be storage as I'm sure you're aware.
The pipes I did install behind both walls do run to daylight.
2 sides of the pool that don't have the walls Theres no problem having the deck slope for water run off. Where the walls are would I be better off with perf pipe or channel drains? Check back to page 1 for additional photos.
What are sheet flows?
Sheet flow is water that runs overland, in other words, water that isn't absorbed into the surface due to impermeability or prior saturation of the soil. The greater the slope the greater the chance of and volume of sheet flow. You appear to have a slope coming down from the right on your picture. I can't see beyond the picture what is happening further off to the right, but if the slope continues up and onto your neighboring lot, you have to manage that volume of flow or it will flow over your retaining wall during significant rainfall events. Does that help?
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The Weathers been great here. All of sudden snow sun night! My brother and I just finished the fencing. This is half the fencing as the rest will go up after the patio. I had a guy come by with a bobcat and auger and dig 21 holes in 45 mins. Well worth the money. My brother and I put this up in one day! A lot of work but worth it. It's coming along.
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The Weathers been great here. All of sudden snow sun night! My brother and I just finished the fencing. This is half the fencing as the rest will go up after the patio. I had a guy come by with a bobcat and auger and dig 21 holes in 45 mins. Well worth the money. My brother and I put this up in one day! A lot of work but worth it. It's coming along.
What a great brother! I hope you had some beer and steaks ready for him when it was done!
That looks wonderful! WOW!
Kim
That looks wonderful! WOW!
Kim
Beer during the build then took him an our parents to a late dinner for sure n turf! We are beat today!!
Looking really good. I am in central mass looking to do a double roman end next month. Still on the face of what type of patio to do. Keep up the good work!
At first we were going to go with concrete. We changed our minds and are going with Pavers. We selected the Pavestone Venetian pavers. I know I can do it myself with my brother but it's so labor intensive. We just hired the PB to do it so that we can enjoy it. It's big money but I'm glad we are doing pacers.
