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  1. Sabot

    Who here are the water hydraulics experts?

    I have a total of 3 tap points for the LQ. The original point tap which is right after the filter but before the 3 way solar valve. A tap on the other two sides of the 3 way solar valve. (I.e. one on the pool side and one on the solar side) I have meter valves on all so I can test different...
  2. Sabot

    Who here are the water hydraulics experts?

    "I am still puzzled by your question about the non-solar side and the flow rate of 2. Why can't you open the LQ flow valve more to increase that flow rate to 3?" Answer: The valves are fully open with a flow rate of 2. The suction is right before the pump. For the pressure side I have 1 tap...
  3. Sabot

    Who here are the water hydraulics experts?

    Cool, I will talk to the solar man when he comes out to install my flow meter on the non-solar side. He will be doing some plumbing work for me. This seems to be a better way to reduce the pressure differance between solar on & off. Any idea how to fix the problem of low pressure on the...
  4. Sabot

    Who here are the water hydraulics experts?

    PB came out and replaced the pressure gauge which was broken. Solar off: 15psi Solar on: 24psi
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    Who here are the water hydraulics experts?

    I test out some shorter runs on the flex tubing to see if that makes a differance in the morning when it's a bit cooler outside. I am out of ideas what to do. I have tested every possible solution. It will be interesting to see what the new gauge will show on the filter.
  6. Sabot

    Who here are the water hydraulics experts?

    I have not done such tests. Having not done such tests, I can't say for fact. What I have watched daily, is the spikes and declines. Now with the heat up, the solar has not been running of late. My FC has been dropping over the last 3 days since my solar has been off. I have the max flow going...
  7. Sabot

    Who here are the water hydraulics experts?

    Do you recommend a booster pump? Wonder if it is possible to wire the pump does not run when the solar is on? What pump is recommended? I have all Pentairs so far. When we where designing the pool, it was recommended that we have a booster due to our water bubblers and waterfalls. We decided...
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    Who here are the water hydraulics experts?

    PB is coming out to replace this coming week.
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    Who here are the water hydraulics experts?

    Found some paste at Home Depot this morning and applied to the leaky thread. We where gone for the morning until just 30 minutes ago. I left the pump off so the paste could setup. (It said you can apply pressure right away but I figured I give it a few hours). The is no leak as of yet... Once...
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    Solar Panels and Vacuum Breakers

    Great job Mark, made my mind go fuzzy again... :) I just love that animation!
  11. Sabot

    Who here are the water hydraulics experts?

    Went ahead and installed the LG per John and Jason’s suggestion. It works, better control but (always a butt) there is not enough pressure when the solar is off. With the solar off, the max out to the flow indicator is 2. I need 3 to get enough chlorine to the pool to make a difference. To get...
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    Hooray for JASON LION (Your pool's MVP)

    I agree, Jason has been there helping me at every corner with my newbie questions and issues.
  13. Sabot

    Who here are the water hydraulics experts?

    I was afraid you say that! I went ahead and placed a service call with the PB to come out and check. I will also test it when I get home and watch it. I can't recall I watched the PSI gauge on the filter while the solar kicks on. I do record the PSI as part of my daily testing and data...
  14. Sabot

    Who here are the water hydraulics experts?

    When I recorded the flow rate, I tested each setting 3 times and average the 3 reading into what I reported. When it's not too hot outside, I will repeat. The higher rates where much more accurate for it didn't take long to fill that jug compaired to the 1-2 settings. Man that took forever! :)...
  15. Sabot

    Who here are the water hydraulics experts?

    Sorry, There is no noticable differance in the filter pressure. Which is holds around 9psi.
  16. Sabot

    Who here are the water hydraulics experts?

    Yep, I took a gamble on the valve. It's real hard to find any valves what works in the range needed. I just estimated the GPM, they are not accurate. Being that I am not that great with math, I was hoping someone could get the exact GPM. I used a stop watch to time how long it took to fill a 1...
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    Who here are the water hydraulics experts?

    I asked this a few weeks ago when I was talking with David Booker. He stated the markings on the flow indicator did not have any meanings. This started me to think of purchasing a calibrated flow meter (which are costly) After weeks of searching, I came across Dwyer Instruments. After talking...
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    Who here are the water hydraulics experts?

    Just for clarification on John’s concept: Solar side Meter valve is closed to a value which will reduce the flow to the tank. Check on non-solar side prevents water from entering the non-solar PVC plumbing. Non-Solar Meter valve is fully open to allow maximum flow to the tank. Check on solar...
  19. Sabot

    Who here are the water hydraulics experts?

    Thanks gents for dialog today on the matter! I will report soon if the pressure regulator works at all. If not, it will go into the pile of stuff that I am collecting. I hope most folks don't see my tweaks as a problem with the setup. It's just someone (me) trying to justify to their wives...
  20. Sabot

    Who here are the water hydraulics experts?

    Just for clarification purposes: On my Liquidator, between 3 to about 3.5 on the flow indicator is the working area for me. In this range I can minimize the loss of FC. I do not attempt to maintain an exact number. When I need to raise the FC in small amounts, I adjust my Liquidator in the 3.5...
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    Who here are the water hydraulics experts?

    I stand corrected, no I have not done that. My PVC is looking like cheese with all the holes in it now. :) I am getting a pressure regulator tomorrow from eBay which I am going to test out. If it fails then I might be open in cutting another hole in my PVC. ;)
  22. Sabot

    Who here are the water hydraulics experts?

    I forgot to ask, would there be anything to gain in research for me to mount a flow indicator on the suction side of the tanks? (I have extras) Thanks, Mike
  23. Sabot

    Who here are the water hydraulics experts?

    I tried what John suggested with no improvement. From what I understand, the valve will effect the flow rate of fluid not the pressure within the fluid. I believe my issue is the pressure, not the flow rate. This is where my mind becomes fuzzy. ;) I did a flow rate study last week: Solar On...
  24. Sabot

    Who here are the water hydraulics experts?

    Great info gents! Let's keep testing and reporting what we find. :goodjob: I have been watching your build with interest since both of our projects share a similar linage. The same applies to our quest for inexpensive hardware. I have found that once you find the right hardware, no matter the...
  25. Sabot

    Who here are the water hydraulics experts?

    On my initial install, I had 1 feed coming off the PVC into a “Y”. In fact I had two meter valves right after the “Y”. I tried this with no effect on the pressure. It did increase the flow to the other tank but at a very insignificant amount. The valve did have an impact on the...
  26. Sabot

    Who here are the water hydraulics experts?

    I have been researching various pressure control devices which can address a small issue that I have. A quick recap: On a different thread where I am keeping notes on the Liquidator & pH Adjuster, I have found that I have a pressure difference when my solar heater comes on line. When having...
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    Who here are the water hydraulics experts?

    If not an expert, one with experience.
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    Adding acid regularly..questions about dry vs Muriatic.....

    This is what I am looking forward to getting: http://www.chemauto.com/products/cat1000.htm
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    Adding acid regularly..questions about dry vs Muriatic.....

    I opened a new bottle of MA yesterday, it was a bit humid (70%)... The cloud of fumes I swear chased me around the yard... It must have been funny to see me running around the yard followed by a mist...
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    Muriatic Acid Substitute

    I have been forgetting to ask... what is Muriatic Acid adding to the pool? Since Sodium Bisulfates are adding sulfates which some think are bad, what bad things is the Muriatic Acid adding? A total novice here but I have to think something so powerful as Muriatic has to have some bad effects to...