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+1 with Dirk. I prefer the ebook as well, because it's in an online book format; and this may be a generational thing, but for me it's much easier to follow a book format for learning concepts than to click around to different topics using tabs or table of contents. For some reason, I missed a...

My market does not have a supplier of LC at the beginning of the season or after mid August. Only Ollies Warehouse carries it, and it's seasonal. We have pool stores but none carry liquid product. I usually respond with the lack of LC by using regular bleach since I'm not using much chlorine...

I'm not sure how far you've come towards figuring out that Trouble Free Pool Care, aka this website is a different, simpler, cheaper and more chemically-correct method of pool care than the "traditional" method taught at Leslie's, other pool stores, and other online sties / Youtube channels...

You had indicated that your FC at 3 was okay in your original post without also posting a confident cya level. I'd have to go back and read pool school but I'm pretty sure it's got some language in there about not using trichlor or it may use the words "stabilized chlorine"; trichlor is...

Let's try this again. Troublefreepool.com is not just another pool care help website that teaches the same methods as what you've been shown elsewhere, and therefore, some of the topics you are referring to are not relevant here. Some of the assumptions you're making, such as that your FC level...

Warning: I'm not an expert, but a long-time follower of the methods taught here. Some of the levels you mentioned and strategies you're following, i.e. TDS, have little or no relevance to the way pool care is taught here. I suggest that you read the free pool school e-book to understand my...

I apologize for mentioning (not recommending) cal hypo pucks. I've never used them myself but do know that they exist. I now see that you reported CH at 450.

Dominant pool store in my town sells mostly cal hypo pucks, but they sell them only in huge 5 gallon pails. Is that an odd product in most markets? Liquid is what's hard to find here in Middle TN.

Just so you know...you didn't just find one of "those internet forums"; this is THE FORUM that you want to be on. Go nowhere else or you'll get bad; sometimes even worse advice as you'll get in a pool store. Read pool school e-book. Read abc's of pool chemistry. Read Jason Lion's post "getting...

I'm glad I clicked on this post; didn't know about the Clorox brand; wasn't always this way, but it's usually more expensive than the store brand anyway, but I have bought Clorox previously when the store was out of store brand regular ( you have to use plain bleach; no easy pour or scented...

Ollie's Bargain Outlet is the best liquid chlorine value; bleach or otherwise that I can find near Cookeville, TN. Ten percent for a full gallon @ $2.99 seems to be the supreme leader in my area. It has so far dosed my pool as expected using pool math and my 7400 gallon pool, which works out to...

I've got an 18' round pool above-ground and was using a 12 gauge, 25' cord and a 110V pump. Good quality cord. I had run it under my deck with some pvc pipe serving sort of of like conduit. The cord was not getting hot. I was inspecting it at the end and beginning of each season. Everything was...

**Beware*** you've landed on a forum and website that teaches a different and better and cheaper and more simple way to care and fix pools. The people here don't make money giving you advice; this is real, but we can't help you a whole lot until you understand the basics of what is taught here...

Not quite true in my case. 2016 season, when I opened my pool, the PH kept continually dropping, so I went out and bought a 12 lb bag of baking soda. After two, 5 ppm adjustments using a total of 16 fluid ounces, I've not adjusted PH or TA since. However, just last week I needed an antacid and...

This has been my first full season 100%, as much as possible, following TFP methodologies. Last year, I tried following TFP except w/o a recommended test kit, which in retrospect, is a really bad way of caring for a pool; almost as bad as following traditional methods. Even though I feel I...

The other key is that you must always test FC the way it's spelled out in SLAM instructions, and it must be an unexpired FAS-DPD kit. As for liquid chlorine, including 8.25% bleach, I'd say but don't know, because it's liquid and much less concentrated than trichlor, dichlor, or Cal-hypo, that...

Very important... Did you always test and retest and retest in order to be confident of your CYA level before starting a SLAM? I think I've also read on here that a an actual pool CYA level under 30 , will not test accurately. If this is true, I'd be skeptical of any CYA result at or below 30. I...

Welcome to TFP! This is a comprehensive website that provides free help to pool owners. There are about 90,000 members here, so as they say, 90,000 members can't be wrong! But we don't ever recommend most of the items you've mentioned above to fix or maintain pools. This site promotes a...

Does the Value Time have the percentage printed on the jug? The reason I ask is that there are some really cheap off brands that do not list concentration whatsoever and likely contain a very small percentage of bleach, but you can sort of test what you're using, and if you get the suspected...

Just making sure you understand what everyone is saying...The TC number you are reporting is suspect, because only the two recommended by the TFP community can give you and us an accurate measurement of FC above 5. Also, giving us only the TC number doesn't tell us how much chlorine is "free"...

Oops! Plaster pool. Edited comment.

I can't believe that the folks that do pool care the traditional way; when I tell them about the TFP way; think it's too hard! They think 5 minutes a day pouring in bleach is too much trouble for a pristine pool. It just seems like a backwards way of thinking. The only thing harder about this...

Back to the bleach for just a moment catching back up on this thread...If I understand right, you're getting Clorox brand from DG? If so, don't they have DG brand? Where I live, DG-branded bleach, at one particular store, has the freshest bleach around, because they turn it over so quickly...

Okay thanks! After posting, I went to their website and found the closest Leslie's to me is Murfreesboro (aka Little Nashville; pop-100K plus; part of the Nashville MSA around 85 miles from my home). Surprisingly, Leslie's is just not set up in my micropolis of Cookeville; pop-107K, and so I...

Good points and good discussion everyone. I personally don't like trichlor, and maybe it's just that I don't know how one uses it the TFP way. I've got used to this every-evening-testing methodology (usually just an OTO test of TC; weekly FAS-DPD), and I know how much chlorine the sun took...

Unless I missed something we've still not convinced you to get one of the test kits. You are getting one right? Without a K2006 or a TF100, you're not going to be able to do a SLAM and fix the pool. The pool store has already said they can't read your pool FC level, because it's too high (that...

I would take what they told you with a grain of salt. You're with us now, their ideas about FC level and shock levels are no where near what really fixes pools. Yes they are almost always shocked when TFP method folks bring their samples in for testing. Most of the stores recommend FC from 1-4...

Something else that strikes me about this website and the forum is all the negativity about pool stores and the recommendation to stay out of them. I mean I understand the part about pool care that people have to come here to do things right, and I understand that folks can go to Wal-mart for...

Well cal-hypo is the only un stabilized chlorine they sell. Like I stated above, I'm still fairly new and have learned most of the basic principles so don't really understand the problems associated with cal-hypo except for the CH it adds. Personally, I don't like to use it, because it's so darn...

I may be wrong; I'm still fairly new, but someone on another thread stated that Leslie'a recently bought Pool Supply World. Until a week ago I hadn't heard of either company, but I did find some Youtube videos from the latter that looked like they could have been produced by TFP. They even show...