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I think what I'm going to say this winter is you buy it, I'll install it and get you up and running plus help monitor it, and if you end up not liking it I'll buy it from you.

It'd probably just make him mad :) It's not the money that's the main issue, I just haven't figured out yet what it is.

Thanks all for the input. Pool is now in great shape, water looks like liquid glass, PH is perfect. I'll just keep an eye on it. Swampwoman, that's it exactly. I thought I had him convinced to go SWG a few years back but at the last minute he backed out. It would really be ideal for him, he...

Thanks. Got the TA up to 150 (overshot on purpose given his sky high CYA and planned continued puck and dichlor use), PH is finally about 7.0. Found some borax so will get the PH to 7.5 and monitor for awhile, because I know he won't. We shocked the heck out of it a few days ago, no metal...

Added the pool math calculated amount to get the TA up to 100, but this morning it's only reading 50 ppm. Also added sodium carbonate (HTH ph+, no borax around here :( ) to get PH from 6.8 to 7.5, PH still not registering. Plan to add more baking soda and PH+. Would love to see the PH take...

He did for a while. His pool was perfect. He got tired of manually adding bleach at dusk. Tried to talk him into SWG, he also went for it but in the end reverted back to the pool store and has nothing but problems since.

Thanks. Baking soda added. Will check TA and PH tonight before I shock and scrub.

My concern is the PH drop test reads lighter than 6.8 so all I know is that it is low. With the info that if the drop test shows ALK is 0 then PH is really low, like 4.5, it doesn't go up much with the baking soda, and if it doesn't it requires a BUNCH of borax to adjust it up according to pool...

I've never adjusted a pool this far out of whack. Pool math says if I add 282 oz (12k gal pool) of baking soda TA should go to 100, but PH should only bump .2. If I assume PH is 4.5 as stated above, PM says I need 35 boxes of mule team 20 to get PH back to 7.5. Does that seem right?

Thanks. Yes on trichlor and dichlor use. He has a bad case of white mold going on, 2ppm FC with a CYA of 150ppm at least. Trust me, I've lead him to the water but he just won't drink. When it all falls apart, I put it back together again, plead my case, and wait for the next time. He needs...

Found this in the extended test instructions sticky- Sounds like exactly what is going on. I'll use baking soda. I assume the high CYA is the likely culprit?

PH in my dad's pool is very low, color is lighter than the 6.8 low end of the scale. I want to adjust it up tonight so tried to test alk so I could determine if I should use baking soda or borax and how much of which to get, but the HTH drop test won't work. The 5 drops I put in the 25ml...

Can't the SWG be programmed to only generate for a specific time? I was under the impression they could, but now I'm wondering...

You can try boosting your alkalinity to higher levels and calculating and adding weekly the amount of borax to get your PH to 8 or so to give it some room to drift down through the target range, but in my opinion the biggest problem you're going to eventually face isn't the constant PH battle...

Thanks. By the time I got by to test CL had dropped well into OTO range, PH is now definitely 6.8. Will be adding borax this afternoon.

Got alk up but PH still registering low (around 6.8). Have added borax but doesn't seem to be doing it. Before I add more, can high CL mess up the PH test? He's been circulating his pool 24hrs instead of the normal 6 to mix everything we've been adding and his CL is now orange with OTO, so I...

Nothing like that, just kids jumping in. I had his pool perfect and trouble free. He just had to buy bleach and add it daily. He got lazy and took the easy way out not realizing it's not really easy, just different issues which are more of a pain to deal with. Maybe this will help him see the...

Now I'm wondering. I worked hard to get my alk down in my BBB pool and it goes against my will, but given that he is not likely to suddenly see the light and at least test weekly, I'm wondering if I should shoot his alk to 180 or so to give him a larger buffer to protect against the trichlor...

Thanks. I've personally been off trichlor for so long I hadn't paid any attention. I've added enough baking soda to bring it to 80 if it was 0, pool only takes 3 hours to turn over so will check it again this evening and go from there. He doesn't monitor anything. Water was clear, I'm...

Thanks. If we overshoot I can deal with that, just need to get it up asap.

Thanks. I'm entirely perplexed as to why his alk is that low. This is his 3rd or 4th year with the pool. Never a problem before now. Which is why I wasn't really worried about not having an alk reading before adding the borax. What's the chance the borax we added will still have an affect...

My dad said his PH was real low and asked what to do about it. I asked what his alk was, but he only has a really old HTH test kit for CL and PH. I tested it with my 6 way HTH kit and indeed his PH registers below 6.8, color definitely out of range. I then checked Alk, and the reagents are...

We should all have such "problems" :)

I sent them some vinyl from my step cut-out for the tests. Can't for the life of me remember who it was, and don't ever recall seeing any results posted. **Edit** Just checked my pm's, it was KurtV.

3rd year with a new liner and BBB, and liner still looks like new.

Ignore me. Apparently I don't know how to read :hammer:

I don't have his kit but have bought some reagents from Dave, can't remember off the top of my head but if the reagent for the CC test is what Dave mentions in this thread, perhaps that's the problem?

I always wait overnight, as I want to make sure and not overshoot PH on the low end. I suppose you could go by your calculated turnover time at a minimum, if you're in a hurry for some reason.

65 ppm FC? Really?

Depending on the test kit you have, the color change you are looking for varies, but should be indicated in the directions. Make sure you are adding 5 drops of the indicator as stated, then count each drop of titrant, swishing the sample after each drop, until the color changes to what is...