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  1. Sunny Blues

    0 CYA and 0 FC. Need advise

    Yep!!! That expired chlorine probably isn’t even 4% now. The Woodman’s with a best by date of 2025 is fresh!!! It’s good. Usually the best by date is one year after manufacturing so it was probably bottled in Feb or Mar of this year. Mine is best by Feb 2025. I’m planning to use it before...
  2. Sunny Blues

    0 CYA and 0 FC. Need advise

    Yes, please don’t forget that this is not representative of what a typical TFP year is like after opening your pool. Don’t judge it by what you have had to go through to fix your water. If you stick with us you will see next spring just how different it really is. My opening last year...
  3. Sunny Blues

    0 CYA and 0 FC. Need advise

    We certainly had a torrential downpour last night, didn’t we? LOL Hopefully nothing on your solar cover is reintroducing anything into your pool? I wonder if that is possible? We stopped using ours when we started TFP. I know they are great and all but we found it a cumbersome headache to use...
  4. Sunny Blues

    0 CYA and 0 FC. Need advise

    Yes but I learned this in our first two years here, when I was just learning too. It served me well. That’s why our 13 year record was achieved. How can a CYA of 50 be a costly mistake?
  5. Sunny Blues

    0 CYA and 0 FC. Need advise

    I live in northern Illinois and anything 40 ppm or less we found more cumbersome to maintain. We stay between 50-70 and have not had a single swampy episode in 13 years, not even a trace of algae. We haven’t had to do any slamming the rest of the season after opening the pool. That’s the only...
  6. Sunny Blues

    0 CYA and 0 FC. Need advise

    See I disagree just because of what we experienced the past 13 years. Our CYA readings increase within hours of doing this. Always by the very next day, but mostly the same day. I don’t have DE in my sand filter though so I wonder if that interferes with some pools? We also backwash right...
  7. Sunny Blues

    0 CYA and 0 FC. Need advise

    Oh for some reason our skimmer sucks water fast so it’s like a little whirlpool in there. 😂
  8. Sunny Blues

    0 CYA and 0 FC. Need advise

    I’d highly recommend you increasing your CYA though to at least 50ppm. It’s a much more comfortable level for maintenance. And it’s relatively easy. My husband has two tube socks he uses. He places a full one with granular CYA knotted at the top into the skimmer and waits about 15 minutes. Then...
  9. Sunny Blues

    0 CYA and 0 FC. Need advise

    Ammonia was her main villain this year. Always extremely difficult to combat.
  10. Sunny Blues

    0 CYA and 0 FC. Need advise

    I was just going to say this! @LovinPoolLife - When you have ammonia at the start of the season and you’re coming from a history of pool store chems, it will never be a fast fix. It’s painful and slow cleaning it all up and getting your pool to a truly balanced place. But know for certain once...
  11. Sunny Blues

    0 CYA and 0 FC. Need advise

    It must be pool size then, because my pool is only 18,600 gallons (but probably more like 16,000 since the water is never all the way to the top,) and we have never spent more than $200-$250 a year on chlorine. For over 13 years. At the most expensive, let’s say we paid that ridiculous $6 a...
  12. Sunny Blues

    0 CYA and 0 FC. Need advise

    I feel bad to interject because I know you’re much more of an expert than I am, but your breakdown is a bit misleading using the highest dollar amount for 10% chlorine. We can get a 4-pk of 12.5% for $15.99 today, (grocery Woodman’s) and if that is sold out we can get it at another store (farm...
  13. Sunny Blues

    0 CYA and 0 FC. Need advise

    Congrats on great progress! I sent you a private message as I too am Northern Illinois and have had similar experiences to you. My alkalinity always wants to be higher, and many years we started with it at 150-190. Usually after I get it down to 80 it crawls back up to 100 and stays there...
  14. Sunny Blues

    Closing soon ...advice on floating cover source/size?

    Water bags - I'm very much interested in the answer to this as well. I'm sitting down today to purchase a slew of new ones because so many didn't survive last winter. We purchased a bunch of new ones last year and half of them leaked before the end of winter. I thought we had bought a high...
  15. Sunny Blues

    1st Closing - Questions re plugs - antifreeze placement

    Thank you Dave!!! Great advice, quick replies (you guys rock) and I feel completely prepared now. whew!
  16. Sunny Blues

    1st Closing - Questions re plugs - antifreeze placement

    Thanks UnderWater! Yes, I agree which is why I tried to list all the pertinent posts that I found about it in one place. I don't have the luxury of extra hours to circulate the polyquat so I'm trying to find a happy medium between the two concerns. Luckily, we had a sunny and 70 degree day...
  17. Sunny Blues

    1st Closing - Questions re plugs - antifreeze placement

    Thanks for all the help you guys! As for the polyquat....I based what I thought I was suppose to do on the following: pool-school/closing_in_ground_pool Post subject: Re: Closing an in ground pool Posted: October 1st, 2011, 6:18 pm Post subject: Re: I am a stranger at the pool store...
  18. Sunny Blues

    1st Closing - Questions re plugs - antifreeze placement

    It was 7.7 throughout August, 7.8 throughout September, and my husband had added mini shock doses to raise FC to 13ppm a couple of days ago - ph was 8.0 right before I did a shock to 24ppm. I did that because our CYA is 80 and 13ppm isn't the shock dose for that high of a CYA. We don't have a...
  19. Sunny Blues

    1st Closing - Questions re plugs - antifreeze placement

    Hi! :wave: We are closing our pool this Wednesday, first time ever doing it ourselves, and we have some questions. (16x32 in ground, 3' shallow - 6' deep, with the pump/filter/heater 10 feet from the skimmer and up to 36 feet from the farthest return jet. We're using a 6.5hp Shop Vac to blow...