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    Plumbing Run Distance Concerns?!? Is 100 feet too much?

    What about the in floor cleaning system t-valve? Rather than run each of the heads 100+ feet to the pool equipment location is it advisable mathematically to have that system much closer to the pool and then have the length in the run to the pump that is far away? Or is this dependent upon the...
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    Plumbing Run Distance Concerns?!? Is 100 feet too much?

    @JamesW Thank you very much for the time spent running the calculations and explaining. You mention suction under 6 and pressure under 8. Is less better? Your example reflects suction as 6.04 (close enough) and pressure as 4.57 (way under 8). Changing from 3" to 3.5" pipe would result in...
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    Plumbing Run Distance Concerns?!? Is 100 feet too much?

    I am not positive. I'm in a bit of a preliminary design and I don't want to get too far down in design and then later decide to move locations of the pool equipment. I would prefer it further away due to backyard design but not at the cost of a pool that doesn't work well. I realize this...
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    Plumbing Run Distance Concerns?!? Is 100 feet too much?

    I'm in the midst of design and the least obtrusive pool equipment location is 100 feet away from the spa, 90 from vac line and 80 feet from the drain. The alternative is that I have the equipment behind the end of the pool and knock about 60 feet off of each of those numbers. I could put the...
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    What material coping and patio for Phoenix, AZ sun?

    Have any pictures you are willing to share?
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    Slide Option disguised by grotto

    @Greenhound386 beautiful environment! Wow, that is awesome. The "rock" style doesn't fit this particular project but I really do love the look and feel you get to experience. Any other comments and suggestions from others? Thank you!
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    What material coping and patio for Phoenix, AZ sun?

    I obtained some samples as well as some marble pavers and today, August 24, 2024 at 1:30pm I checked their surface temperatures and they were as follows (all in Fahrenheit) AP Cool White: 124 Marble Paver: 125 AP White Pearl: 130 AP Silver Sam: 135 AP Platinum Gray: 135 See photo with the...
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    Slide Option disguised by grotto

    I'm in the midst of designing out a play pool in Phoenix area. I'm not particularly fond of the look of traditional slides. I'm thinking of designing a grotto at the end of the pool that would hide the majority of the slide and stairs. Please see attached 3D inspiration photo that I found...
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    What material coping and patio for Phoenix, AZ sun?

    May I ask your concern you had with the backyard builder not having experience with them? Is there something unique or something with that particular product? This is my fear (and may have been yours as well) that I find a product (that MSI product for example, or Artistic Pavers product...
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    What material coping and patio for Phoenix, AZ sun?

    Toasty! Probably not as hot as some product though! Correct me if I'm wrong but Porcelain requires a concrete base rather than a sand base which adds to the cost substantially and the inflexbility (breaking of tiles) more often since it is on such a rigid surface?
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    Pool Fill Valve --- Use Soft Water, Hard Water or combo??

    I really like your comment about plumbing it in such a way that I can choose hard, soft or maybe even a combo. I can also relate to wanting to turn water off to the house while out of town for an extended period of time but I also don't want to kill landscaping or the replenishing of water to...
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    Pool Fill Valve --- Use Soft Water, Hard Water or combo??

    I just added to the OP that it will be pebbletec. Does that matter? Is there a scenario in which I will want to add CH? If so, would I simply just grab a hose and hit the nearest hose bib? What i'm trying to do is have water that doesn't dry out and destroy my skin while also trying to...
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    Pool Fill Valve --- Use Soft Water, Hard Water or combo??

    I'm in the midst of designing a new construction underground pool. It is a 17k gallon play pool. Location is Phoenix, AZ. We have very hard water in Phoenix to the degree that I get super itchy and irritated skin in a matter of days if the salt is low in the house soft water system. Pool will...
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    What material coping and patio for Phoenix, AZ sun?

    We are looking for material selection for the pool coping and patio area around the pool that will be in the Phoenix, AZ sun. Our priorities are as follows in this order: Low maintenance Comfortable & safe (heat, texture, slippery) Cost Design-wise we are looking at a mixture of white and...
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    Flagstone or Travertine ?

    How does one determine the quality of the stone? Price is a simple factor that can easily be deceptive by having a high price for a terrible product to seem as though it is a good product.
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    Phoenix, AZ - Pool design and engineering using current best practices

    I’ve started the process with BYOP. I’ll try to remember to post back to this thread. You may also message me about my experience.
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    Paramount PCC 2000 availability and strengths

    Thank you all for the responses. As expected, it is a sales-pitch and likely high margin item which is why they spent so much breath talking about it. It also sounds like a potential issue if the pool isn't designed properly to allow it to be turned off and use other methods of cleaning. It...
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    Paramount PCC 2000 availability and strengths

    I am at the absolute infancy of the process of a new in-ground build. I intend to get a pool design and engineering completed by a non-builder but figured I would give a PB a chance without everything specified out to see if they are complete, fair and trustworthy. During our very first...
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    Phoenix, AZ - Pool design and engineering using current best practices

    Pooleng.com only does engineering. They do not design. They take a design and if you only have rough dimensions then they apply general depths but nothing custom to your application. They also, best of my knowledge, won’t spec out model numbers and quantities of equipment that a designer should...
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    Phoenix, AZ - Pool design and engineering using current best practices

    I'm looking for a reputable pool design and engineering firm for new construction pool in Phoenix valley. The company doesn't need to be located in Arizona, but should know the requirements that the local governments would like to see. Incredibly important is that they know how to design a TFP...
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    New Pool - Infinity Edge Thoughts?

    I agree that an infinity edge pool is best used in a situation where there is a great view past the pools' edge. In my case, I thought it would be neat to have simply because my landscaping behind the pool is my yard's water retention and so I have a unique ability to do it without designing...
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    New Pool - Infinity Edge Thoughts?

    What are some of the concerns or issues associated with an infinity edge? In my particular situation the lot itself is flat but we have to retain our own rain water so landscape design we will have a grassed sunken down section of the backyard. This elevation change is roughly 30" and will...
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    Dry Skin + Hard Water = No Fun

    In my previous home I had a stand-alone Bullfrog spa. It was a great experience except for afterwards in which my skin would be extremely dry to the point of using lotion several times a day for several days to get "back to normal". The area in Arizona is known to have hard water. I thought...
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    Hello from Phoenix, Arizona

    Hello everyone! I'm finally registering after lurking for quite some time. I've been in Phoenix valley for over a decade and between three homes I only had one little play pool which was a blast (when it wasn't blooming algae or having pump problems). I'm building a new home that will have a...