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  1. Mermaid Mama

    Maintaining low chlorine with copper ionization system?

    Old post but what he is saying about Copper is patently false. Copper is killing legionnaires and staph where chlorine can’t. All you have to do is Google “Copper Silver Ionization”. The EPA says it’s safe to drink 1.3 ppm of ionized copper water. This isn’t new technology, it was developed...
  2. Mermaid Mama

    Let the games begin...copper-silver ionization

    Lol your post is a big swipe at alternative theories and it sounds like you don’t know a lot about the subject. I was looking forward to a civil debate about what I have learned. Yes, TFPs method works but if there are non-toxic ways keeping water sanitary on the horizon that should be...
  3. Mermaid Mama

    Let the games begin...copper-silver ionization

    1998 PubMed “One copper-silver ionization system was sequentially installed onto the hot-water recirculation lines of two hospital buildings colonized with Legionella pneumophila, serogroup 1. A third building with the same water supply and also colonized with Legionella served as a control...
  4. Mermaid Mama

    Let the games begin...copper-silver ionization

    Yes, I have too for years but the science is there so I am going to give it a whirl. And you are wrong on the date. The article is dated March 2023 but says it was was first established as effective in 1994. So it’s not new for hospitals. What you don’t like science now? It doesn’t hurt to...
  5. Mermaid Mama

    Let the games begin...copper-silver ionization

    11/2019 From American Society Microbiology: “A new study has found that copper hospital beds in the Intensive Care Unit (ICU) harbored an average of 95 percent fewer bacteria than conventional hospital beds, and maintained these low-risk levels throughout patients’ stay in hospital.”...
  6. Mermaid Mama

    Let the games begin...copper-silver ionization

    03/2023 “Silver ionization was used in the 1960s by NASA for the sanitation of water on spacecraft. “ “Later, in 1994, copper-silver ionization was the first reported effective treatment for controlling Legionella in a hospital. Today, copper-silver ionization is used to prevent waterborne...
  7. Mermaid Mama

    Let the games begin...copper-silver ionization

    Abstract: “Copper and silver ionization is a well-recognized disinfection method to control Legionella species in water distribution systems in hospitals. These systems may also serve as a potential indoor reservoir for fungi. The prevalence of fungi was significantly lower in ionized than in...
  8. Mermaid Mama

    Let the games begin...copper-silver ionization

    Science! Not voodoo. Dated 2022. “Copper silver ionization water treatment is an EPA-approved method for disinfection and is most commonly used to control Legionella bacteria in building water systems. The water treatment uses a process where very small amounts of copper and silver are added...
  9. Mermaid Mama

    Colloidal Silver Hot Tub Sanitizer Experiment

    Here we go! I understand silver isn’t oxidizer and the kill time historically has been reported as being way too slow. However, America Society for Microbiology says otherwise (link below) and hospitals are having beds, linens and serving trays infused with copper and/or silver to combat things...
  10. Mermaid Mama

    Beach Spa- Green water from treatment plant

    It’s mold!! After a couple of hours with ozone running, the boron and using slam... it’s pretty with just yellow building up on the side!
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  12. Mermaid Mama

    Beach Spa- Green water from treatment plant

    When I fill a bath tub with water inside the house, it’s also green. If that helps. It didn’t tank it, I confirm it did raise it. Way more then it should have according to PoolMath. I only added 0.6 ounces of 20 mule to get me to 7.5. But it’s bright pink off the charts and I only added 0.50...
  13. Mermaid Mama

    Beach Spa- Green water from treatment plant

    I have always been told Borax is good for raising Ph and the calculator for doing that is in Pool Math?
  14. Mermaid Mama

    Beach Spa- Green water from treatment plant

    Hi Guys, I have a SwimSpa at my house and have no problems balancing my water but I am adding a new spa to a vacation rental at the beach and the water is green! My Guests will freak out if they see this. It’s actually much greener in person then in the pic. This is not a well, it’s from a...
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  16. Mermaid Mama

    How to SLAM when spa won’t allow high levels of chlorine?

    Perfect! Thank you! Should I try to have the ozone disconnected? I am a type A person and don’t like I can’t measure it... also in hindsight the ozone has probably been the reason I have had such a hard time developing a baseline even when it was brand new and unused and the biofilms were...
  17. Mermaid Mama

    How to SLAM when spa won’t allow high levels of chlorine?

    Hi KimKats, This was great and you are always so helpful! Do you happen to know the SLAM process with UV and Ozone? I didn’t realize the darn UV and Ozone were going to be such a pain and make it harder to understand what’s happening with the water. Most SwimSpas in my area are on back order for...
  18. Mermaid Mama

    How to SLAM when spa won’t allow high levels of chlorine?

    Yes, biofilms were cleaned out first. Grrrr I should have followed my gut and holding the chlorine levels. I just adjusted the TA down and I turned on the jets to boost the pH but the jets are lowering... could my ozoninator be affecting this? If I can’t get this figured out quickly then I...
  19. Mermaid Mama

    How to SLAM when spa won’t allow high levels of chlorine?

    Thank you, when I asked her what the max was at first she said 3 then she said 6... so I suspected that maybe there wasn’t a hard and fast rule about this. I have suspected something was growing bc of the way my chlorine was disappearing and I talked to her about that and her response was to...
  20. Mermaid Mama

    How to SLAM when spa won’t allow high levels of chlorine?

    It’s all clean, it just so happened I cleaned it before using the clarifier.
  21. Mermaid Mama

    How to SLAM when spa won’t allow high levels of chlorine?

    Spa water is cloudy, I used dealers clarifier to fix bc she told me I absolutely shouldn’t try to SLAM bc it would damage UV system and Ozone Generators. I was told I only need to keep Clorine at 1.0 bc of Ozone and UV cleaning systems. I have used the TFP method for years on an AGP and...
  22. Mermaid Mama

    CYA chemistry help please

    I ran the CYA test again after the 2.5-2.75 lbs fully dissolved it’s at 50. Checked to see if I bought the CYA from a third party on Amazon so that I could share that info here but it came from Amazon directly. Not sure if Pool Mate is a respected company or not but I now know received two...
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  24. Mermaid Mama

    CYA chemistry help please

    Must be defective CYA, bc I just tested and got a very solid 30. First time the dot has ever disappeared so must have received defective or counterfeit product from Amazon last year as well bc it was really difficult to dissolve then and last month. I checked PoolMath, if I had an existing...
  25. Mermaid Mama

    CYA chemistry help please

    Update possible problem found: After thinking about everything you told me about old or unkept pool testing I decided to the pool store to get CYA bc their products are surely fresher then Amazon. I got a 4 lb bag that was identical as the previous bag except the brand name says Aquabrite. The...
  26. Mermaid Mama

    CYA chemistry help please

    Thank you for this but I do everything you have listed. It gets very cloudy like in the middle picture of this test picture but still always see the dot at a glance so what’s next? Do I add another 2 lbs and test again or another 5 lbs since test is showing trace amounts? Also, could this be...
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  28. Mermaid Mama

    CYA chemistry help please

    Yes, in our basement, we run window units in summer and in the winter it stays pretty warm bc it’s only dirt on one side and the other three are considered walk out walls. The kit is stored in an old refrigerator that is not plugged in. The detailed chlorine test is still good bc I frequently...
  29. Mermaid Mama

    CYA chemistry help please

    It’s TF-100 and received it June 2019 so not quite as old as I thought.