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    NOTICE - ALL INTELLICENTER USERS

    Of course! Maybe if they gave half a ****, (which they clearly don't), they would even read user forums like this to see what their real paying customers actually think is important... I was thinking this too of course but I just can't see a dinosaur corporation like Pentair actually doing it...
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    NOTICE - ALL INTELLICENTER USERS

    @MyAZPool - as ever, thank you for all your hard work on ALL of this IC-based stuff. Regarding RS485 control of Intellivalves here is my read on that... When a product manager is, in Q1 2021 already talking about things 'planned' for Q4 2022 and the thing you care about (Intellivalves) is...
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    NOTICE - ALL INTELLICENTER USERS

    @MyAZPool Plenty of minor issues but I don't want to drown out the only one I really care about and the biggest broken promise / false advertising / confidence killer... RS485 Control of Intellivalves If I had 10 votes I would use them all on this issue. Come on now Pentair, no more excuses...
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    Pentair IntelliCenter Pool Control Dashboard Instructional Guide

    Re 'doubling up' on the RS485 bus: You can absolutely do this with no problems. RS485 communication is via a 'bus' which means all messages are pushed onto the same cable pair and all components 'hear' all messages. They just choose to ignore the ones that do not concern them. When you use a...
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    Pentair IntelliCenter Pool Control Dashboard Instructional Guide

    @MyAZPool Fantastic work as ever. A tiny contribution that may be of use to some: Powering the Pi can be done via PoE (Power over Ethernet). There are various 'hats' that mount directly to the Pi that take the power supplied on the RJ45 and use it to power the Pi without the need for USB...
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    Pentair IntelliCenter Review and Information

    Yes, tried that and MANY other things! I am pretty sure @rstrouse is correct that the broadcast massage is just a beacon to the controller and then the controller must 'handshake' with the valve or at least address it directly in order for it to change it's message. It seems like the...
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    Pentair IntelliCenter Review and Information

    Hi @MyAZPool and everyone else on this thread. I opened this issue on the NodeJSPoolController project on GitHub. Long story short, one of the main contributors to that project @rstrouse has been doing fantastic work and is closer than anyone, (especially Pentair :LOL:), to getting control of...
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    IntelliCenter Quick Reference/Information Guide

    Really excellent work, thanks for putting in the time to create this! I think the IC can technically function without a personality kit. Based on my findings from digging around in the API the system can support a total of 26 valve actuators. In order for this to be possible the four expansion...
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    IntelliCenter Home Automation Integration and Control

    Hi @kyleaa, we were able to establish a connection with Telnet but my websockets test failed. That's why I was wondering if you had details of how to connect with websockets on 6680 since I know the connection via Telnet on 6681 is good. Thanks!
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    IntelliCenter Home Automation Integration and Control

    Hi @kyleaa and @MyAZPool , Sorry for the delay I have a lot going on here at the moment so am not as active on here as I would like to be but wanted to check in and update. As @MyAZPool mentioned, he and I have been working on what I am calling the IntelliCenter Commander. It's really just a...
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    IntelliCenter Home Automation Integration and Control

    @MyAZPool, Well I am confused. :confused::scratch: Hopefully @kyleaa will weigh in to save us but in the mean time, lets do some trouble shooting. Lets try the simplest command there is and see if we get a response. Try entering: ping I believe you should receive a response: pong If this...
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    IntelliCenter Home Automation Integration and Control

    Quick 'from the hip' idea: Try removing the carriage returns from the command, i.e. make the whole thing one line when you send it. It may be considering the newline as the end of input. {"condition": "SNAME = Lights","objectList": [{"objnam": "ALL","keys": ["OBJNAM", "OBJTYP", "PARENT", "ACT"...
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    IntelliCenter Home Automation Integration and Control

    Hi @kyleaa, Glad to see you back! Would you mind looking over my API 'documentation' in post 39. I have the light commands documented along with everything else I could find but since I don't have an IntelliCenter to test against this is all theory. I'm hoping that the reason @MyAZPool was not...
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    IntelliCenter Home Automation Integration and Control

    Ah! I think there is a misunderstanding... You need to replace 'xx' with the number of the aux circuit connected to the light, not with the number of on/off cycles. So if your light is connected to Aux Circuit 3 then the commands for one off/on cycle would be...
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    IntelliCenter Home Automation Integration and Control

    Hi @MyAZPool, Cycling the lights through the API with STATUS ON/OFF should have worked. Did you replace 'xx' with the number of your light relay circuit as described in my google sheet in post 39? If you are still having trouble, please could you paste in the request that is casing a 404. I...
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    IntelliCenter Home Automation Integration and Control

    Thanks for testing, I didn't expect it to work, but it was worth a go in case there was a hidden feature. :) What happened when you tried cycling the lights manually with the STATUS OFF and STATUS ON calls? The lights should at least go off and on and, depending on how quickly the messages...
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    IntelliCenter Home Automation Integration and Control

    EDIT: Looks like the mods moved this post that I posted in reply to @MyAZPool 's post referencing his post in this thread before I realised I should have posted it here... :confused:? This is something I had been wondering about so thanks for posting! Since we know that the way to 'hold' a...
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    IntelliCenter Home Automation Integration and Control

    Hi @MyAZPool, Some thoughts based on nothing more than my own guesses (remember I don't even own an IntelliCenter... yet ;) ) While technically, probably possible, practically this is a no-go. One would need to access the source code of the firmware, then modify it to support the IntelliValve...
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    IntelliCenter Home Automation Integration and Control

    Fair enough, it was worth a try. Thanks for testing it.
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    IntelliCenter Home Automation Integration and Control

    Hi @jonpcar, I think that may well be true, and if successful the node.js project could one-day mean that no controller is required. However I believe the project is also intended to support users of automation products including the IntelliCenter. there is a detailed thread on an issue raised...
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    IntelliCenter Home Automation Integration and Control

    @kyleaa Once again - you rock! :rockon: @MyAZPool I have made a start on this, focusing on commanding the IntelliCenter first vs subscribing and understanding the status messages (to come later). I have compiled it all into a google sheet. All of this is totally untested but the API seems...
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    IntelliCenter Home Automation Integration and Control

    @kyleaa This is excellent! Thank you for sharing!! :D Am I correct in assuming you got the basic syntax from @mrweber 's post? How were you coming up with the commands to use? Do you have a reference guide or just some educated guesses? I'm thinking I could put together some documentation...
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    IntelliCenter Home Automation Integration and Control

    Looks pretty good. Not sure the noise filter is strictly necessary but it wont hurt :) 2.5 Amps looks on the low side but the reviews are solid so I'm guessing it must be a quality power supply. You may eventually want to plug in a z-wave dongle and maybe some other peripherals so you want to...
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    IntelliCenter Home Automation Integration and Control

    Simple answer to this question is YES! But....... it won't be smooth sailing. I think your SmartScape Landscape Lighting may give you particular issue since I can't see reference to support for it on either of the platforms. All of this stuff is open source so the documentation is not great at...
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    IntelliCenter Home Automation Integration and Control

    Uh oh, please don't blame me when you end up selling your kidney to buy an internet-connected pair of slippers or a smart-potato peeler ;):LOL: I'm sure you will have fun with it all. Both OpenHAB and Home Assistant are great platforms with very active and helpful communities for beginners and...
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    Pentair IntelliCenter Review and Information

    Hi @CasaBlanca, I am no expert regardless of what @MyAZPool may say :) I would start with some traditional troubleshooting by narrowing down the variables. Are you able to temperately run an Ethernet cable out to your IntelliCenter from your router? This would eliminate the POE antenna and...
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    IntelliCenter Home Automation Integration and Control

    @MyAZPool Exactly (y):) One thing that springs to mind regarding the Raspberry Pi, there are quite a few variants out there, none are very expensive but they do range in price and the price broadly reflects the 'power' of the mini-computer. For this application, you are looking at very low...