I have a residential 24 round above ground pool. What is your take on using hoses vs piping.
should I change from using pool hoses to pool piping
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VinnyinNJ
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- Jul 20, 2022
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- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
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- Hayward Turbo Cell (T-CELL-5)
Hoses tend to get holes in them at the wrong time. Our first pool was strictly hoses and they lasted about a year or 2 before they needed replacement. Our new pool is hard plumbed and it is so much easier IMO. Just make sure you put unions on the piping to be able to break down for storage, remove the top of the filter and if going with a salt water generator to remove that from the plumbing.
Hoses kept splitting and causing gigantic geysers at our pool. Changed out to solid pipe and never looked back.
There's two kinds of pool hoses, the ones that have already popped, and the ones that wait until your double shift starts before popping. 
In addition to the above about hoses rupturing, hard piping improves flow. In my case a LOT.
It was amazing to me to see the huge increase in flow that I got when I switched. It is actually sightly problematic. If I don't have a basket in my skimmer, my pump can now pump faster than the skimmer fills, and eventually start to suck air.
It was amazing to me to see the huge increase in flow that I got when I switched. It is actually sightly problematic. If I don't have a basket in my skimmer, my pump can now pump faster than the skimmer fills, and eventually start to suck air.
Well that explains my problem too. Hard pipe with faster water flow.
When you decide to hard pipe remember to use schd40 pipe vs DWV.
VinnyinNJ
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- Jul 20, 2022
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- 13500
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- Vinyl
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Hayward Turbo Cell (T-CELL-5)
On both my pools, one with hoses and one hard plumbed there was/is a certain amount of water the pool needs to be filled to not suck in air. i found i needed to fill the pool to the top side screw on a Hayward skimmer (very scientific!
) and there is about 1/2 inch below that where they start sucking in air. Luckily I can see that area when the solar cover is off, also luckily we don't take it off to often ... floating in the pool with an adult beverage doesn't require a full removal, just a peel back! 
That's funny. My target is the midpoint screw in the skimmer opening for the same reason. I have to have the weir door and basket in place, otherwise the flow is too laminar and a vortex will form and start to suck air. The weir and basket provide enough resistance and turbulence to disrupt the flow and not allow a vortex to form. Those collect fluid dynamics classes actually came in handy (not really).On both my pools, one with hoses and one hard plumbed there was/is a certain amount of water the pool needs to be filled to not suck in air. i found i needed to fill the pool to the top side screw on a Hayward skimmer (very scientific!
VinnyinNJ
Bronze Supporter
- Jul 20, 2022
- 1,048
- Pool Size
- 13500
- Surface
- Vinyl
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Hayward Turbo Cell (T-CELL-5)
Back in my Yute I went for Electrical Engineering (EE) but didn't finish the degree. I don't ever remember taking thermodynamics or other Engineering courses that didn't relate to EE which looking back on it is kind of strange. My youngest son had to do a college level course maybe 5 years ago and was struggling with Calculus and I had to wipe the cobwebs out to remember things from 30+ years ago. So NO fluid dynamics for me!
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