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I`m smoking a pork butt Sunday on my new pellet smoker/grill. Jark just cooked one and I want to ask a couple preferences each of you have cooking a pork butt. I have a lot of respect for this group. Your great cooks and very knowledgeable.
Do you wet brine?
Do you inject?
What temperature do you smoke?
Do you wrap when hitting 165 degrees?
What is your finish temperature?
If you wrap how long do you rest wrapped or un-wrapped?

Thanks
Pork butt has become one of my favorite cooks. It wasn’t until I found an Eastern Carolina method that uses an apple cider vinegar and brown sugar mop that also has red pepper flakes in it that I finally started to like it.

I don’t wet brine, but I do dry brine. Poultry is the only thing I wet brine.

No injection. Pork butt has plenty of fat for me, so I’ve never had an issue with it drying out. I can understand using an injection if you’re trying to get a particular flavor.

I cook pork butt at 300ish and have cooked as high as 350°. If cooking at 350°, I’ve found you get a better bark and don’t need to wrap because you’ll power through the stall at that temp. My last cook was at 300° because I wanted to put it in a pan with the remaining mop sauce, cover and braise it.

Cooking temp determines whether I wrap or not. Or if I have lots of time and don’t care about the stall. When I cooked on an offset, I almost always wrapped because managing the fire was such a pain. Now that I have a Kamado, it holds temp super long and steady, so it’s less of an issue. I like a nice bark and feel that can be better achieved when I don’t wrap. And when I do wrap, I use butcher paper instead of foil. It lets some of the moisture out and helps retain the bark. Just be prepared for an extra 2-3 hours if cooking below 300° and skipping the wrap.

As far as when to wrap, I usually do so around 165°. That’s when the internal temp starts to just sit and not move. Interestingly, I used a Meater+ for the first time on a pork butt for my last cook. It was estimating the end of the cook at something like 1pm. That shot up to 3:30pm at 155°, which I took as the butt hitting the stall, so that’s when I put it in the pan and covered it. Once I did that, the estimate came back down to 1:30pm and ended up being pretty accurate.

Finish temp is usually around 205°, but I rely on the blade bone as the real indicator. When it moves easily and comes out clean with little to no meat on it, the butt is ready. I start testing the bone around 200°.

I’ve served pork butt right off the smoker and it was very good, but prefer to rest it at least an hour. 2 hours is better. I’ve heard of resting up to 4 hours, but I’ve never had the need (or patience) to do so. Pork butt is very fatty, so it will be juicy even without the rest.

Good luck with your cook and post some pics!
 
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Excellent information Jark!!! Definitely hotter than I usually smoke a butt, I use 225 to 250 as my base which is easy for my electric smoker with smoke tube. I am going to consider following your hotter temperatures with pellet cooker, sounds like Myron Mixon pork cook. I appreciate you quick reply and I will post some photos when done.
 
I`m smoking a pork butt Sunday on my new pellet smoker/grill. Jark just cooked one and I want to ask a couple preferences each of you have cooking a pork butt. I have a lot of respect for this group. Your great cooks and very knowledgeable.
Do you wet brine?
Do you inject?
What temperature do you smoke?
Do you wrap when hitting 165 degrees?
What is your finish temperature?
If you wrap how long do you rest wrapped or un-wrapped?

Thanks
Pulled pork is very forgiving. I just did one a few weeks ago and I think it’s the best one thst I have ever done. It was actually pulled the day I cooked it but reheated and eaten the next day.

No brine. No injection. You don’t need it. You got all that fat to work with. I smoke mine between 225-250. Again. Very forgiving. I pull when it stalls. So my last stalled 160. Some might not stall till later or maybe sooner. I wait for a solid hour flatline or so. I wrap my shoulders in foil with some butter, apple juice and a little more of my rub on the shoulder. I put the wrapped shoulder in a tin pan so I can collect all the juice if it leaks. I pull at 197-200. Others will tell you different. It’s just what I learned from a buddy from Texas.

Ok so resting. Everyone is different. What I have been doing lately with success. When I remove from smoker I open it up for 30 mins to stop the cooking process. Then I wrap it back up right still in pan and it goes into my warming drawer at 140 degrees for 3 hours or so. Unwrap and pull. My bone had literally already fallen out.

I take all that juice and fat. Have my wife separate it and the juice gets mixed back into pulled meat. Last cook I got literally 3-4 cups of good juice with no fat.

So if eating next day here is what I learned from him also. I pulled. Added only a bit of thst juice. To the pan and covered to fridge. Next day. I took it out of fridge. Got it up to room temp. Added all the juice and 1 tbs of butter. Reheated at 250 till hot enough.

This has been my best go.
If you don’t have a warming drawer into a cooler with pan and shoulder wrapped in blankets for 3 or so hours. No issues with this way either.

I wet brine chicken and actually thick pork chops. I use butcher paper for my brisket. I use foil for my ribs. So my wrap and brine techniques are all over. I have been using my warming drawer for my resting anymore. I have been watching meat church on you tube more and more and they preach the whole rest till ready at 140 so I have been putting the drawer to better use. I don’t use coolers anymore.
 
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Pork butt has become one of my favorite cooks. It wasn’t until I found an Eastern Carolina method that uses an apple cider vinegar and brown sugar mop that also has red pepper flakes in it that I finally started to like it.

I don’t wet brine, but I do dry brine. Poultry is the only thing I wet brine.

No injection. Pork butt has plenty of fat for me, so I’ve never had an issue with it drying out. I can understand using an injection if you’re trying to get a particular flavor.

I cook pork butt at 300ish and have cooked as high as 350°. If cooking at 350°, I’ve found you get a better bark and don’t need to wrap because you’ll power through the stall at that temp. My last cook was at 300° because I wanted to put it in a pan with the remaining mop sauce, cover and braise it.

Cooking temp determines whether I wrap or not. Or if I have lots of time and don’t care about the stall. When I cooked on an offset, I almost always wrapped because managing the fire was such a pain. Now that I have a Kamado, it holds temp super long and steady, so it’s less of an issue. I like a nice bark and feel that can be better achieved when I don’t wrap. And when I do wrap, I use butcher paper instead of foil. It lets some of the moisture out and helps retain the bark. Just be prepared for an extra 2-3 hours if cooking below 300° and skipping the wrap.

As far as when to wrap, I usually do so around 165°. That’s when the internal temp starts to just sit and not move. Interestingly, I used a Meater+ for the first time on a pork butt for my last cook. It was estimating the end of the cook at something like 1pm. That shot up to 3:30pm at 155°, which I took as the butt hitting the stall, so that’s when I put it in the pan and covered it. Once I did that, the estimate came back down to 1:30pm and ended up being pretty accurate.

Finish temp is usually around 205°, but I rely on the blade bone as the real indicator. When it moves easily and comes out clean with little to no meat on it, the butt is ready. I start testing the bone around 200°.

I’ve served pork butt right off the smoker and it was very good, but prefer to rest it at least an hour. 2 hours is better. I’ve heard of resting up to 4 hours, but I’ve never had the need (or patience) to do so. Pork butt is very fatty, so it will be juicy even without the rest.

Good luck with your cook and post some pics!
Can you talk more about your mop. Recipe? Also when u use it during cook and after cook? My wife and myself are more of the vinegar based sauces with pulled pork anymore.
 
Another excellent display of skill Jimim. Alot can be learned with this information. Jark brought up the Carolina sauce now you have too. So weird we have always been sweet sauce family and with this pork I planned on using this homemade sauce "Carolina Gold Sauce"
 
Another excellent display of skill Jimim. Alot can be learned with this information. Jark brought up the Carolina sauce now you have too. So weird we have always been sweet sauce family and with this pork I planned on using this homemade sauce "Carolina Gold Sauce"
My taste buds have really changed over the past few years. I’m cooking more Texas style with more pepper and less sweet additives. I also would rather vinigar based thin sauces last few years. Overall I want my bbq especially pork not sweet.
 
My taste buds have really changed over the past few years. I’m cooking more Texas style with more pepper and less sweet additives. I also would rather vinigar based thin sauces last few years. Overall I want my bbq especially pork not sweet.
Well I just made the Carolina Gold Sauce for tomorrow and it is awesome......I was losing my breath breathing the fumes off sauce pan.
Simple ingredients, mustard, apple cider vinegar, light brown sugar, honey, worcestershire, cayenne, and salt. This will be great on pork and wifey said she wants this for sauce with scotch eggs.
 
Can you talk more about your mop. Recipe? Also when u use it during cook and after cook?
I’ve used a couple of different mop sauces, both of which are very easy to make. I like them both. I prefer to make them a day in advance so that the flavors can come together. I mop every hour after the 1st hour of cooking. I also reserve some to pour over the meat once it’s been pulled.

- 2 cups apple cider vinegar
- 2 tbsp red pepper flakes
- 1 tbsp Kosher salt
- 1 tbsp black pepper

This is what I used on my last cook. I wanted to add some sweetness. I got this one from Chef Tom Jackson of All Things BBQ. Once I hit the stall, I put the butt in an aluminum pan and poured about 1/2” of mop sauce in the pan to use as a braise. Covered and finished the cook. Once finished, I took the juice from the pan, separated the fat and poured it over the pulled meat. It was delicious!

For the mop sauce:​

  • 2 cups apple cider vinegar
  • 1/2 cup ketchup
  • 1/4 cup brown sugar
  • 4 tsp Kosher salt
  • 2 tsp crushed red pepper
 
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I just add a new recipe to my Word Doc Cook Book!!!! Jark87 Mop Sauces!!!!!

Thanks Jark will try the sweet mop soon. I`m close to 11 hours on my Pork Butt cook currently 193 degrees.
 
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Pork Butt was one of the best for me 7hrs on pellet grill @235 apple blend. 4.5hrs wrapped on electric smoker @250, wrapped in cooler resting for 1 hr. Nice smoke, flavor, and seasoning spot on. The family was very pleased. I shredded by hand easily.
We had grilled buns, Carolina Gold Sauce, broccoli slaw, and candied jalapenos on sandwiches, Potatoe chips, and Smoked Deviled Eggs. Pepsi Peanut Pie for dessert.9 lbs Pork Butt.jpgPork Sandwich.jpgSmoked Deviled Eggs and Pepsi Peanit Pie.jpg
 
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I still have not found a good recipe for wings. The best I have found is on my gas grill one burner on and cook on one side till golden brown flip and do the same it is a long process but the wings come out super crispy. :cheers:
 
Finally but the bullet and got a real griddle cover. It is a little over sized but I think it will do well
Where did you find this? I have an older blackstone that I'm thinking of replacing with their newer model just because it comes with a nice metal cover. Probably would be cheaper to just buy a cover if I could.
thanks
 
I still have not found a good recipe for wings. The best I have found is on my gas grill one burner on and cook on one side till golden brown flip and do the same it is a long process but the wings come out super crispy. :cheers:
I’m hooked on the pellet grill at 350 for 60 mins then air frier or oil for a few mins. They ate so awesome. That’s naked on grill with just salt. Then I toss them in whatever.
 
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Hatch chili season is officially upon us! Local market had their first batch, so we picked up a box. Spent the afternoon roasting them and my wife peeled and seeded them. We’ll freeze a bunch and hopefully they’ll last until next season. They’re only available through around late September. We use them in all kinds of cooks. I have some leftover pulled pork that I froze, so I’ll make another batch of enchiladas, but this time with Hatch chilis!

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