You should be able to just barely grab the ceramic portion of the seal and pull it out. Or, use a very small screwdriver. The rubber cup should then be somewhat easy to pull out.
It takes a 1" coupler to drive the bellows portion, a 1" pipe might damage the seal.
 
Hopefully you can get all that remnant of rubber out of there and clean the area so that it is relatively smooth. It looks like there was a lot of heat from your pump running dry and it may have damaged the impeller. Regardless of what you might read, that is heat damage, I've seen it literally at least a hundred times. Show a picture after you get it cleaned out. You may need a new impeller.
 
Hopefully you can get all that remnant of rubber out of there and clean the area so that it is relatively smooth. It looks like there was a lot of heat from your pump running dry and it may have damaged the impeller. Regardless of what you might read, that is heat damage, I've seen it literally at least a hundred times. Show a picture after you get it cleaned out. You may need a new impeller.
Can I use like goo gone or something to help clean it
 
Can I use like goo gone or something to help clean it
Goo Gone may attack the plastic, that's bad. I use a flat blade screwdriver as a scraper and just scrape away, keeping out of the plastic of the impeller and concentrating on the now hard rubber. Its important to not cause any more damage than there already is. It can be done if you are patient. If not, just get a new one. Be sure to match the number that is on the old impeller. They are available online for between $28.50 (eBay) and $37.00 (Amazon) for a 1hp Whisperflo impeller. They maybe aftermarket, but I've used many aftermarket parts with no issues. OEM seem to be much more expensive.
 

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Hopefully you can get all that remnant of rubber out of there and clean the area so that it is relatively smooth. It looks like there was a lot of heat from your pump running dry and it may have damaged the impeller. Regardless of what you might read, that is heat damage, I've seen it literally at least a hundred times. Show a picture after you get it cleaned out. You may need a new impeller.
 

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Good work. You can see where the ridges on the seal cup actually melted into the bearing cup, but that damage is minimal.
Be sure to use a "little" bit of silicone sealant on the rubber portion of the seal that goes into the impeller. Not so much that it will cause a big amount to ooze out when the seal is installed. You don't want it on the ceramic if at all possible ( if you get some on it, just use a napkin/cloth with a bit of alcohol to clean the surface). Just a thin coat that will fill the imperfections in the impeller. It will also help the seal to seat in the impeller. You don't let it cure before assembly or it will just be in the way. I use the handle of a screwdriver to seat those parts. Place the seal over the cup and push with the handle in the center of the ceramic. That way you don't touch the surface and get oils on it.
 
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I really hope this is my last plea for help

I cannot get the seal plate gasket to stay in place when putting the motor into the housing

It gets loose on the sides every time
I even went to Leslie's and bought another kit thinking it was the Amazon ones that were wrong

What on earth am I doing wrong?

Appreciate all the help but legit ready to fill it in with dirt😩
 
I tried the lube that came with it, it has no sticking power. Same with another one I tried.

I have silicone sealant but that needs to cure for 24 hrs

What kind do you mean? Obviously, I'm clueless
Silicone does not need to cure to use it to hold the gasket in place and you don't want it to. You want it tacky and able to spread as the bolts are tightened. Clean the groove, put a nice layer in the corners and at the top and bottom. You can fill the whole groove, won't matter if the silicone hasn't cured.

Place the gasket in the groove, let the silicone grab it. Some will push out, no problem. Put the pump together. Start tightening the bolts with the middle ones to allow the pump to align. Be sure to have lubed the diffuser O ring before assembly so it slides into its housing.

Some silicone may push out between the two portions of the pump, just wipe it off.
 
Silicone does not need to cure to use it to hold the gasket in place and you don't want it to. You want it tacky and able to spread as the bolts are tightened. Clean the groove, put a nice layer in the corners and at the top and bottom. You can fill the whole groove, won't matter if the silicone hasn't cured.

Place the gasket in the groove, let the silicone grab it. Some will push out, no problem. Put the pump together. Start tightening the bolts with the middle ones to allow the pump to align. Be sure to have lubed the diffuser O ring before assembly so it slides into its housing.

Some silicone may push out between the two portions of the pump, just wipe it off.
Thank you so much
Didn't want to screw it up after all this work!
 
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Everything is put back together and I still have a leak I think at housing, so I need to reseat the motor maybe. Not a trivial task with my equipment setup

One more issue: after the spider gasket replacement my filter is running about 6 psi higher than normal (and it always ran kind of high) any ideas? I backwashed and rinsed well

Can I let it run like this to get my chemicals balanced again?

I suck at this but I am learning a lot
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Marci
 
Look who's back! :) You've been busy. With all you've done and the crazy TX heat, keep your cool and prioritize your issues such as:
1. Pump running good without leaks
- Is it the seal plate gasket?
- Is it from the shaft seal?
- How much is it leaking? Have to be careful and not develop a rupture that would be catastrophic.
2. Filter operating but pressure seems high
- Faulty gauge? Does the needle go to zero when off?
- Algae starting? Wouldn't be surprised if system has been off several days
- You always have the option to put your filter on recirculate if you feel the pressure might get out of hand while you're away from home.

I know @1poolman1 has been coaching you through a lot of this, so I tagged him as well here. Don't be surprised if we end-up merging some of your threads just to keep everything together so we don't get scatter-brained. :crazy: Deep breath!
 

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