Sreenlogic 8; Aux valve B to aux 7 relay to 24v sprinkler valve...help.

Yetilagoon

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I read on an old thread that by using this 3 prong pig3 wire inserted into the aux valve B on the motherboard and wired to my open aux7 relay you could control a low voltage sprinkler valve through the SL system. This would allow me to fill the pool water using my remote connection on the app while I'm away for months at a time. I managed to get the Pig3 wire off ebay. I have the sprinkler valve. What I can't find is..where to attach the wires to the 7 relay. In one of the pictures I have the pig3 wire on the left it has 3 wires red, black and white. On the right is 2 wires from the 24v sprinkler valve.
Can anybody tell me how to wire this?
 

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You would be using the valve b. You will have to go into settings and bind it to a circuit feature. There is no polarity on the sprinklers solenoid. I forget which two lines activate first on the valve port you can test red and white enable button and if you get 24vac that’s what you want to hook up to. I think @Jimrahbe is more versed in the actuator workings and voltage of each line. I usually just replace the whole actuator so I don’t remember what color activated first. Maybe he has some insight.
 
Yet,

The 3-pin connector plugs into the B valve port on the main card.

The port has three pins, two of which have 24 VAC between them. You need to figure out which two wires have power when the B valve is not being told to come on. You don't need to do anything to the programming, because you are not actually using the B valve, you are just stealing its 24 Volts AC,

Use a voltmeter and put one lead on the black wire coming from the 3-pin connector. Put the other lead on the Red wire and see if you have 24 Volts AC. If you do, the Red wire is the one you will use. If not try the White wire. You will only use the black wire and either the Red or White wire depending on which one has the 24 Volts AC. Cap the unused wire off.

The black wire connects directly to the one of the two wires from the Sprinkler valve. The wire with the 24 Volts AC gets connected to the Line side of your Aux 7 relay. Use the number 1 pin on the far left, Wire the other wire from the sprinkler valve to the Load side pin 2 of the Aux relay.

Any time you turn on Aux 7, the relay will close and send 24 Volts AC to the sprinkler valve.

Thanks,

Jim R.
 
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How do you plan on knowing when/how much water to add? I have an in floor cleaning system that pulls from one skimmer. When the pool water gets just slightly low it starts sucking air from the volume of water it is pulling. I installed one of kona labs autofill sensors. I did run the power coming from the autofill to the actuating valve through one of my relays in my easy touch so I could monitor how long the system was running when I wasn't home and so it wouldn't be masking a potential leak. I simply run it as a timer function. They have an online version that I wish I would have gotten-would allow you to monitor quite a bit from your phone. I don't have any affiliation with Kona Labs-was just thinking this might be a good addition for you since you said you would be gone for months at a time.

 
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Just a note on irrigation valves - they are not foolproof. They are controlled internally by water pressure differences across a rubber bladder. The solenoid simply opens or closes a small orifice to allow the pressure across the bladder to change and water to flow. There is a hitch though - debris can get caught on the bladders sealing surfaces and cause the irrigation valve to pass water. This typically shows up as the lowest irrigation emitter on the line “weeping”. In a pool application this would cause the fill line to run continuously with a slow fill of water. Without a level sensor to cut power, a weeping irrigation valve could overflow the pool if no one is paying attention.

Hopefully you have someone looking in on the house while you’re away.
 
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Thanks for the tips. I will look into it.

I installed the irrigation valve on my aux7 circuit and it works great manually or from my app. The only problem is it won't program. I changed the name on the aux7 to "FILL LINE" from the available names. (was closest to what I thought fit the description) but for some reason when i schedule for an on time it doesn't go on at the scheduled time. I think it's probably something simple i missed?
Yet,

It just takes one dummy to help another dummy... :mrgreen:

Thanks,

Jim R.
 
Yet,

The Circuit Name is just that, a name, it does not change what the circuit does. You could name it "fill line" or "Jim" it will not matter.

The EasyTouch can only have 12 programs or schedules, and this includes any egg-timers not set at the default of 12 hours.

ScreenLogic will let you enter a billion schedules, but only 12 will work. That is what I would look at first.

And... Do you really want to schedule it? I never know when my pool will need water, it just depending on the weather.

Thanks,

Jim R.
 
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Be careful with the pre-named circuits. They are sometimes designed to work in ways that are unusual. Use a CUSTOM NAME for a GENERIC circuit to control an AUX relay. For example, I thought using the pre-named circuit "AERATOR" would be a good idea for something I was doing but, as it turns out with Pentair (il)logic, the canned AERATOR feature activates the SPA return valve so that water is pulled from the pool and sent to the SPA jets ... ok, that makes some sense and some nice bubbles. BUT, when in AERATOR Mode, the SWG is also activated AND you can run the heater .... so AERATOR will push all the water through the SPA jets, heat it and chlorinate it ?!?!!! I discovered this is the most unpleasant of ways - I was sitting in the spa with the aerator feature running just relaxing and it started to become hard to breath occasionally ... my IC40 was set to 60% and when it would turn on, some of chlorine gas it was generating was getting mixed up in the air bubbles and coming out of solution all around me. My wife happened to walk over and she said, "What the heck is that chlorine smell??" I hadn't noticed it much because I was sitting in it and it was building up slowly around me. Because the AERATOR feature runs the SWG in POOL Mode (full output), the amount of chlorine produced can get very high or at least high enough to cause breathing difficulty.

So I honestly am not sure why Pentair has that feature but I assume it's trying to do something useful with lots of chlorine and outgassing ... suffice it to say, I don't use that feature anymore and I created a custom circuit name with the feature set as GENERIC for what I needed...
 
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My scheduling programs are all messed up.
I had
POOL ON 8am to 4pm
CLEANER ON 8am to 2pm
POOL LIGHTS ON 7:45pm to 1am
SPA LIGHTS ON 7:45PM to 1am
YARD LIGHTS ON 7:45 to 1am.

After My fat fingers did something It wont let me get this schedule back.
When I try to add a light schedule it adds a 2nd pool schedule instead and deletes a previous light schedule.
I thought maybe I had to many schedules and it won't allow me to add without deleting some of the egg timer schedules. I cant figure out how to delete the egg timer schedules on the app on my ipad. So, i set many of them to 12hrs 0 minutes thinking that was a default?
But that did not help.
 
Well it looks like I got it resolved. It wasn't my fat finger after all. It was my glitchy old IPAD. It glitched and showed a screen of schedules so long I had to scroll down to the end. I deleted all of the excess back to the original and now it looks good and seems to be right. Regarding the original topic: My aux7 connected to water valve is up and working. I also just installed an IS4 Spa side controller, there was no buildout hole for it so I had to McGyver it to a boulder built into the side of the spa. It actually came out really nice.
This spa controller has 4 functions I can set on my phones SL config app but for some reason it doesn't show the "spa air bubbles" anywhere? It also has a "heat boost" function? and a "heat enable" function. Is anybody familiar with those? Right now i just have 2 of the functions in use Spa and jets.
Thanks again for all the help!!
 
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