No Bonding!

ashleyjohnson

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May 3, 2018
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Brilliant, AL
Pool Size
21120
Surface
Vinyl
Chlorine
Salt Water Generator
Our concrete was poured around our vinyl liner pool about a month ago. We started feeling small electrical shocks when entering and exiting the pool and after some research we think it's because our pool was not bonded. Is there anything at this point that can be done to stop the electrical shocks? We've had the power company come out and check and they said it's not coming from our house but we can feel it even when we turn the main power off. Any suggestions???
 
That is exactly what bonding is for. Ideally your bonding wire should loop around the pool at least 2ft away from the walls and connect to anything metal (including rebar in the concrete, metal stairs), then connect to pool equipment (pump, pool lights, swg controller) and to the water.

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Do you have any rebar on your concrete?
Do you have any metal stairs (or other metal parts that can come in contact either with water, bathers or both)?
Do you have pool lights?
Can you share some pictures from around your pool?
 
That is exactly what bonding is for. Ideally your bonding wire should loop around the pool at least 2ft away from the walls and connect to anything metal (including rebar in the concrete, metal stairs), then connect to pool equipment (pump, pool lights, swg controller) and to the water.

To better help you...
Do you have any rebar on your concrete?
Do you have any metal stairs (or other metal parts that can come in contact either with water, bathers or both)?
Do you have pool lights?
Can you share some pictures from around your pool?
We do have rebar in our concrete. Our steps are not metal but the handrails are. Yes, we have a pool light. I'll upload pictures once I get home this afternoon.
 
It's a new build. We are in a rural area so we do not require inspections unfortunately.
Wouldn’t surprise me if they didn’t pull a permit even then. That’s no good, your pool builder should have bonded it before they poured the deck. Before we bought a house with a pool we tried to build one. I recall one builder complaining about having to now bond fiberglass pools. Didn’t think it was necessary. Builder probably didn’t think it was necessary, but it would have been a minimum amount of work. Either that or the bond got broken somewhere somehow during construction. Either way, it’s on them.
 
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Have you checked yourself if a permit was required.
Since you are in Marion County, the county maybe the authority having jurisdiction in your area.
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The source of the stray voltage needs to found and eliminated first! Then, the issue of proper bonding resolved.
That is a common misconception. A "source" of stray voltage does not necessarily needs to exist. Otherwise grounding alone would resolve the issue. Bonding server a different purpose by eliminating the difference in electrical potential (aka voltage).
 

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Wouldn’t surprise me if they didn’t pull a permit even then. That’s no good, your pool builder should have bonded it before they poured the deck. Before we bought a house with a pool we tried to build one. I recall one builder complaining about having to now bond fiberglass pools. Didn’t think it was necessary. Builder probably didn’t think it was necessary, but it would have been a minimum amount of work. Either that or the bond got broken somewhere somehow during construction. Either way, it’s on them.
Yes, but since it's not bonded, what are my options as of now??
 
Your option is to insist that your builder fix their mistake. The builder cannot simply build an unsafe pool and walk away.
 
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That is a common misconception. A "source" of stray voltage does not necessarily needs to exist. Otherwise grounding alone would resolve the issue. Bonding server a different purpose by eliminating the difference in electrical potential (aka voltage).
Maybe I misread, but if there is an electrical shock being felt, should that not be found and eliminated beforehand?
 
Maybe I misread, but if there is an electrical shock being felt, should that not be found and eliminated beforehand?
Eliminating the electrical shock is what bonding is for. If there is no potential difference there is no electrical shock.
An electrical shock on a pool does not need a source like a damaged electrical cable or a broken piece o equipament. It may just happen in nature.
 
Yes, but since it's not bonded, what are my options as of now??
Unfortunately you need to try to get the builder to do the right thing and fix it. If that goes south you will probably need to call a licensed electrician (they may or may not be able to fix it). As far as I know, you don’t have many options to fix it that doesn’t involve busting up some of that freshly poured concrete, I could be wrong, there are people that know way more about bonding then I do.
 
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