Can you just plug your pump in without the timer for your party and then worry about the timer after? Don’t want to rush electrical work if your not comfortable with it.
Brand new Circupool sj-45 shuts off after salt and cell lights turn on red
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Jean,
This assumes your equipment is using 120 volts AC...
Pin 1 gets the Hot wire from the 120 volts input
Pin 2 get the Neutral from the 120 volts input Pin 2 is also connected to the Neutral of both the pump and the SWCG
Pin 3 is not used
Pin 4 is connected to pin 1 with a jumper wire
Pin 5 is connected to the Hot input of both the pump and the SWCG.
Pins, 6, 7 and 8 are not used.
The ground goes to the lug at the bottom of the unit..
Since you have a single speed pump, the SWCG and the pump are wired to the same input voltage.
Thanks,
Jim R.
This assumes your equipment is using 120 volts AC...
Pin 1 gets the Hot wire from the 120 volts input
Pin 2 get the Neutral from the 120 volts input Pin 2 is also connected to the Neutral of both the pump and the SWCG
Pin 3 is not used
Pin 4 is connected to pin 1 with a jumper wire
Pin 5 is connected to the Hot input of both the pump and the SWCG.
Pins, 6, 7 and 8 are not used.
The ground goes to the lug at the bottom of the unit..
Since you have a single speed pump, the SWCG and the pump are wired to the same input voltage.
Thanks,
Jim R.
The plug on the pump is easily replaced if you want a fast fix you can just plug in without a timer. Cut the plug off, and replace with something like this: Home Depot: Leviton 15a 3 wire plug. Three bux and done. I personally would no longer trust the plug on the pump, it will likely overheat and fail when you most need it. The install is quite easy, you simply cut and strip the wires, insert them into the new plug terminals, and tighten their screws. Then tighten the housing screws, and you're done. We can help you with the wiring positions if the instructions aren't clear.
If you want to hook up that new timer, it's still pretty simple but you will need a good 3 wire power cord, at least 12 ga. wire, to hook it up with. The specs of that timer are curious, it lists a 1.0HP motor @ 120V, but then says 30 FLA (Full load amps). Heck the 120V instructions are a little ... uh... wrong. Shows connecting the line and neutral to the relay C and NO terminals? I suppose it's a good way to test the circuit breaker
Anyway. Wiring is still pretty simple. You'll need a couple wire nuts too.
If you want to hook up that new timer, it's still pretty simple but you will need a good 3 wire power cord, at least 12 ga. wire, to hook it up with. The specs of that timer are curious, it lists a 1.0HP motor @ 120V, but then says 30 FLA (Full load amps). Heck the 120V instructions are a little ... uh... wrong. Shows connecting the line and neutral to the relay C and NO terminals? I suppose it's a good way to test the circuit breaker
Anyway. Wiring is still pretty simple. You'll need a couple wire nuts too.
Disaster averted,....replaced the pump cord, installed the pump and SWG to the new timer. So far, everything is working!
Now I need to figure out how to set the timer
I followed these instructions.
Now I need to figure out how to set the timer
Did you have the pump plugged into an extension cord when the plug melted? An extension cord should never be used on a pump, as they get real hot real quick.
Thank you @Jimrahbe . I think maybe I have done something wrong. I got everything hooked up and running. I had to press the manual button the first time to get everything running, but it worked. I set the timmers, when I went out to check everything, it hasn’t shut off, and when I press the manual button it still won’t go off. What did I do?
Jean,
Did you follow the set up instructions for the timer itself?? Setting the clock etc?? Did you set a start time and an off time??
Thanks,
Jim R.
Did you follow the set up instructions for the timer itself?? Setting the clock etc?? Did you set a start time and an off time??
Thanks,
Jim R.
I did have a 10g extension cord, it is fine and now being used to occasionally run my robot. I think the timer was just not designed for such long use?? The timer melted as well.
I checked everything this morning, nothing had shut off like it should have, and when I push the manual button it still won’t shut off! Any ideas on what I’ve done wrong?
@Jimrahbe I did. I pressed the reset, then set the time, then set the timer. The time was correct when I checked last night and this morning.
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I just now turned off the breaker. Everything went off. I re set the time and timer. I set the timer to come on 15 minutes from now. When I turned the breaker back on, everything came on and my clock was flashing. I reset the clock and the timer for a future time, everything is still on
Snap a pic wide enough to see all the wiring. Even if wired correctly, the timer's relay may not have been able to take the load and basically welded itself closed. There's a reason the automation system's relays are so big, inductive loads (pump motors) are tough to reliably switch.
I can't quite tell where each wire is going in there, but it looks like you may have inadvertently bypassed the relay. Check to see if your wiring matches this:
Ok,.. do I need to connect all three black wires from my swg, pump, and input from the breaker box to 3 jumpers? That’s 6 wires together,. I’m struggling
One thing that will help it to use jumper wires that are longer. Keep them at least 6” long. That will help when you take a picture of them as well so we can see what’s connected to what.
One member PM'd me and said the ground lug on my diagram wasn't clear as to intent, and I agree so I'll clarify. The ground lug is referring to the lug inside the timer box, exactly where you have it now. If you would like me to redo the drawing I can, but I didn't save it (just a quick sketch on some online tool I found).
For a step by step, assuming everything was disconnected and you were starting from scratch:
1. Unplug/disconnect the power, turn off the breaker, etc.
2. Take the black wire from the power coming in, and a black jumper wire. Put these two wires into terminal 5 on the timer.
3. Take the other end of the black jumper wire and put it into terminal 1 on the timer.
4. Take the black wire from the pump and the black wire from the SWG and put these two into terminal 4 on the timer.
-- This completes the black wires --
5. Make a white jumper wire and put it into terminal 2 on the timer.
6. Connect ALL white wires (4) into a wire nut (power in, pump, SWG, and jumper)
-- This completes the white wires --
7. Make a green jumper wire and put it into the ground lug on the timer.
8. Connect ALL green wires (4) into a wire nut (power in, pump, SWG, and jumper)
-- This completes the green wires --
9. Turn the power on and set the timer as desired.
You should only use two wire nuts, one for white and one for green.
For a step by step, assuming everything was disconnected and you were starting from scratch:
1. Unplug/disconnect the power, turn off the breaker, etc.
2. Take the black wire from the power coming in, and a black jumper wire. Put these two wires into terminal 5 on the timer.
3. Take the other end of the black jumper wire and put it into terminal 1 on the timer.
4. Take the black wire from the pump and the black wire from the SWG and put these two into terminal 4 on the timer.
-- This completes the black wires --
5. Make a white jumper wire and put it into terminal 2 on the timer.
6. Connect ALL white wires (4) into a wire nut (power in, pump, SWG, and jumper)
-- This completes the white wires --
7. Make a green jumper wire and put it into the ground lug on the timer.
8. Connect ALL green wires (4) into a wire nut (power in, pump, SWG, and jumper)
-- This completes the green wires --
9. Turn the power on and set the timer as desired.
You should only use two wire nuts, one for white and one for green.
@superuser
Thank you for your patience with me! It is now running as intended. The only thing I did different is that I used a wire nut to connect two jumpers to the black wire from my power in, then placed one end in terminal 1 and the other in terminal 5. Is there a reason I should change it? Thanks again for your help, we all enjoyed the pool yesterday and are getting ready to get back in today!
Thank you for your patience with me! It is now running as intended. The only thing I did different is that I used a wire nut to connect two jumpers to the black wire from my power in, then placed one end in terminal 1 and the other in terminal 5. Is there a reason I should change it? Thanks again for your help, we all enjoyed the pool yesterday and are getting ready to get back in today!
Outstanding! As long as you used 12ga. or thicker wire, no problem at all wiring it that way.
Is the circuit breaker 20 amp or 15? 12 gauge wire or 14? I think we are morphing into electrician country here.