Need a pump motor recommendation

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PSUlion01

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Motor on our existing Hayward pump is struggling. It was seized up when we purchased the house last fall, and I managed to break it free (it was heavily corroded) and get it running. Now I need to essentially kick start it every time using my impact driver - just turning the power on results in the motor humming and then tripping the breaker.

I’m looking to just swap out the motor if possible, and the rest of the pump assembly seems to be ok. Any recommendations for a two-speed? Current is a 1hp single speed.

Starting with virtually zero knowledge on this so any info is appreciated. Thanks.
 
Would it make sense to replace / upgrade just the motor to a VS, given I don’t know the age of the existing pump, or should I be looking to replace the entire pump assembly?

Pump (Hayward) doesn’t seem to be leaking anywhere and I can easily swap o-rings and gaskets if needed.

Plumbing appears to be 1-1/2 PVC. I’m handy and can likely handle either project (full pump, provided massive plumbing overhaul isn’t required) or just the motor swap. Just trying to avoid throwing money away by potentially cutting corners now.

Thanks
 
What is the pump wet end brand/model? You need that to match up to a motor. Do you have 230V power at your pump now?

Once you have that information, you can call Inyopools for a recommendation on if there is a VS or 2 speed motor that will mate to yur wet end. You may need to change impeller/diffuser.

Or, just buy a full pump system. With no water features, spa, etc a two speed would be sufficient. But VS pumps are now approaching the cost of a two speed. Inyopools has an in house brand of pumps with a good warranty for a DIY install.
 
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mknauss said:
What is the pump wet end brand/model? You need that to match up to a motor. Do you have 230V power at your pump now?

Once you have that information, you can call Inyopools for a recommendation on if there is a VS or 2 speed motor that will mate to yur wet end. You may need to change impeller/diffuser.

Or, just buy a full pump system. With no water features, spa, etc a two speed would be sufficient. But VS pumps are now approaching the cost of a two speed. Inyopools has an in house brand of pumps with a good warranty for a DIY install.
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It appears to be a Hayward Super Pump. I can’t seem to find a model or serial number on it (the tag has worn off).

How do I determine if the power is 115 or 230V? Motor has both listed on the label (pics below).

Lastly, would I want to consider a variable speed over a two speed? Should a one-speed be ruled out unless i'm really on a budget? Willing to take a longer term view on this if it will ultimately save me money.

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Mark indicated the two motors that would fit your wet end. For your system, a two speed motor is overall the best long term though you may need to get a two speed timer so you can use high speed for solar, if needed.

Go to the breaker box that the pump electrical is tied into. Take a picture of the circuit breaker that turns off you pump motor. Post it here.
 
Let me know if these help

Breaker box in house (shed is the breaker for pool)
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Two shots of the breaker in the shed (20amp)
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mknauss said:
What is the pump wet end brand/model? You need that to match up to a motor. Do you have 230V power at your pump now?

Once you have that information, you can call Inyopools for a recommendation on if there is a VS or 2 speed motor that will mate to yur wet end. You may need to change impeller/diffuser.

Or, just buy a full pump system. With no water features, spa, etc a two speed would be sufficient. But VS pumps are now approaching the cost of a two speed. Inyopools has an in house brand of pumps with a good warranty for a DIY install.
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It appears to be a Hayward Super Pump. I can’t seem to find a model or serial number on it (the tag has worn off).

How do I determine if the power is 115 or 230V?
 

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It looks like you have 230 volts.

If you just want to replace the motor, you need to check the impeller to see how much total hp you need.

Impeller.........Total hp required.
SPX2600C..........0.60
SPX2605C..........0.75
SPX2607C..........1.10
SPX2610C..........1.50
SPX2615C..........2.00

You probably have a SPX2607C, but you could probably go to a SPX2605C and a smaller motor to reduce power usage.
 
JamesW said:
It looks like you have 230 volts.

If you just want to replace the motor, you need to check the impeller to see how much total hp you need.

Impeller.........Total hp required.
SPX2600C..........0.60
SPX2605C..........0.75
SPX2607C..........1.10
SPX2610C..........1.50
SPX2615C..........2.00

You probably have a SPX2607C, but you could probably go to a SPX2605C and a smaller motor to reduce power usage.
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Thanks. Do I need to disassemble the pump to find the impeller part number? Nearly all components had come up empty when trying to find part numbers. Just trying to figure out if doing only the motor replacement is short sighted or not.
 
You have to look at the impeller to see the part number stamped on the face of the impeller.

A motor is relatively cheap and easy. You can do a variable speed pump if you like.
 
We have a Hayward 1 hp single speed Superpump and the motor died. The pump was just under 2 years old so everything else was in good condition. We replaced the motor with the UST1102 that Mark mentioned above at InyoPools as well as a GoKit with the gaskets. So far it runs great, no problems. It was my first time dealing with InyoPools and their customer service was great.
 
mickey4paws said:
We have a Hayward 1 hp single speed Superpump and the motor died. The pump was just under 2 years old so everything else was in good condition. We replaced the motor with the UST1102 that Mark mentioned above at InyoPools as well as a GoKit with the gaskets. So far it runs great, no problems. It was my first time dealing with InyoPools and their customer service was great.
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Thanks, that helps. My problem is not knowing how old the components are, and thus if it makes sense to just swap out the motor or if the full pump assembly should be replaced. It appears in good working order minus the motor issues.

Curious, but what led to your decision for single speed vs. dual or variable? Was the added cost just not worth it to you? Just trying to understand what makes most sense given our setup (20k gal, 2 skimmers, main drain, 3 returns, small solar on roof of shed).

Thanks!
 
PSUlion01 said:
Thanks, that helps. My problem is not knowing how old the components are, and thus if it makes sense to just swap out the motor or if the full pump assembly should be replaced. It appears in good working order minus the motor issues.

Curious, but what led to your decision for single speed vs. dual or variable? Was the added cost just not worth it to you? Just trying to understand what makes most sense given our setup (20k gal, 2 skimmers, main drain, 3 returns, small solar on roof of shed).

Thanks!
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Mainly for us the decision was money and time. We had a leak where we were losing 400 gallons per day. Ended up having a leak detection company come out after we tried to figure it out ourselves. We usually open the pool mid May but wanted to get the leak taken care of, so the quickest way to get things going with the pump was to simply swap out the motor.

We also have trees that love to attack our pool. First the maple tree drops all this junk in there and then the beech trees do. Then you think you're finally getting a break, and the cottonwoods start (they're the worst). So I was concerned if running a pump at a lower speed would be enough power to get all that tree stuff from our 2 returns to the one skimmer. We have a narrow but long pool.

We also have a salt water generator and I had concerns that running at a lower speed might have an effect on that. Since we wanted to get the pool open early (end of April) for the leak detection, we decided just to go the simplest route.

One thing I would advise is if you decide to go with a new pump, pay with a credit card that has extended warranty coverage, if you have such a card. We were able to get reimbursed for the price of the pump through our credit card company's extended warranty.

Good luck with whatever you decide.
 

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