Recent content by Vinny

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    liqued bleach in your hot tub

    Richard, So you are familiar with the "Vermonter" method - he is the microbiologist that I am talking about. He wrote that because of the people who come to the forum he participated in and asked "how do I use chlorine". He doesn't delve into the chemistry portion of using dichlor, just the...
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    liqued bleach in your hot tub

    Richard, I ran out of time this morning but I want to again say thank you for explaining this all to me. Unfortunately, the microbiologist doesn't post anymore so I don't have someone who understands this at a higher level than I do to learn from. We do sometimes go in the tub around 48 hours...
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    liqued bleach in your hot tub

    Waterbear this is out of my spa manual: 4 - Sanitizers: Sanitizers are used to destroy bacteria and other germs in the water. Only 2 sanitizers are used in spas, chlorine (Sodium Dichlor) and Bromine (Hydrotech or Lonza). Without the use of a mineral system or an enzyme, the preferred level of...
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    liqued bleach in your hot tub

    Richard, I never knew that CYA has a "buffering effect" on chlorine, I only knew it protected the chlorine from UV deteriation. I guess then people who don't use dichlor in the tub (lithium) may have more problems with corrosion or swimsuits. Does CYA of 20 PPM have the same effect at 8 PPM...
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    liqued bleach in your hot tub

    Richard, Why would 0 CYA be a concern for the heater? I thought during our discussion that the corrosive end was not a concern (I am assuming the salt content). There are numerous people (Canada) who use lithium chlorine and it doesn't contain any CYA. I do know that it has lower active...
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    liqued bleach in your hot tub

    Just remind your friend that if it's a new spa that using bleach may void the warranty. Of course the only way the dealer would know is by your friend telling the dealer or if the dealer tested for CYA and there was none.
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    BBB spa

    waterbear - I apologize about the bromine thing. I did read back and see in June you recommended to get a new feeder. This clown is worried about a $15 feeder and is having problems and didn't take advice offered to him. I assumed that this was a new post as people with a recurring problem tend...
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    BBB spa

    Please point me to where it says it lasts all week. I could not find it on their website. The truth is I answered the poster's question and answered it truthfully as my knowledge base allows. I did not say anything that might be construed as wrong or misleading IMO and the poster was and is...
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    BBB spa

    Another thought on oxone - if chlorine is in it's propper amounts is in the water all the time reacting to organics and oxone is not, what is the oxone going to get rid of. The chlorine has done its job and the only thing left is the CC. They use the word oxidize - exactly what superchlorination...
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    BBB spa

    In order for CC not to exsist you would need 10x the FC of CC in the pool, spa or whatever all the time. This is certainly not the case. Adding oxone to a pool, spa or whatever on a weekly basis is inferring that it will do essentially what a weekly chlorine shock does. They are saying to add 1...
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    BBB spa

    I agree that using bromine tabs without a reserve is not the proper way to do it but do you know how many people aren't told that -MANY! Adding bromine tabs and not having a reserve will give you a chlorine system - I agree - this is NOT a rehash. BUT you made it sound like I was giving wrong...
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    BBB spa

    But, is it safe to say that if a person adds tablets to a spa without a bromine reserve that chlorine will not be converted to bromine quickly and chlorine will off gas. 1) This is about the range for chlorine as well. Don't know about other people's spa water but I get about 3 weeks going from...
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    BBB spa

    If the FYI is for me - I know that bromine will convert chlorine to bromine. Some people are unaware that you need a bromine reserve, they just throw in the tablets into a floater and wonder what's going on. Is it not possible to get some chlorine off gassing? How quickly does chlorine get...
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    BBB spa

    Bromine is more stable than chlorine in hot water but it is not necessarily better. Chlorine has a higher killing power per PPM than bromine (chlorine not associated with CYA). It seems that people who use bromine may fiddle with it until they get the correct dosing. Also, shocking can bring...
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    liqued bleach in your hot tub

    Richard, THANKS! Sorry to ask all those questions with you on vacation at Yosemite! You were not the person who said not to use dichlor, it was another person. The neutralizing affect I was talking about was the PH effect of using bleach - no need to explain. Some misconceptions were cleared...