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For the PH test I found that holding a white, plastic plate behind the tube and pulling the plate back and forth until I have a close match. I do this under a very bright light.

FC-you were testing your fill water? Chances are there is little to no FC so your test was correct.

I am going to post a link to videos of the tests. I hope they help. Let us know it this does not help and I have another idea if needed.

Taylor K2006 FAS-DPD FC combined chlorine) swimming pool water test - YouTube

Let me know how it goes this time.

Kim

Yes all of these tests were done on the fill water.

As for the PH test, I did it with plenty of sun light shining through and held a piece of white paper up. I did the test and the water looked slightly darker than the 6.8 range and slightly lighter than the 7.2 range.

I wanted the video you posted on testing for FC and CC. The pink that it turns in the video is perfectly clear that it is pink. Mine I couldn't tell if it was pink or not, it definitely did not turn pink like in the video. If anything as the pink turned back to clear in the video, mine was more like the pink right before the last drop that turned it clear. It was just a tint of pink if anything. So I'm just assuming I don't have much chlorine in my well water.

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I bought 24 96floz bottles of liquid chlorine, 13.3%. I paid $101 for 24 bottles. I'm not sure if this is a good deal or not? I'm also not sure if I bought too much or too little...
 
That's about $4.20 per bottle. Even though it's labeled at about 13%, that's a bit higher than the $2.94 I normally pay for regular 8.25%. If that higher % lasts longer for applications, it may work-out about okay. But I have no idea what your chlorine options are there in your part of PA. If you don't use them all, you can ask about returning them. If they say no, keep the bottles in a dry, cool place. Even if they weaken a bit over time, you'll use them soon enough for daily FC management.
 
Well water will have little to no FC in it so you are fine! If you want to make sure your powder is working you can dip a tooth pick in some bleach then put it in a cup of water and swirl around. I bet you see some pink then! LOL

Kim
 
Well water will have little to no FC in it so you are fine! If you want to make sure your powder is working you can dip a tooth pick in some bleach then put it in a cup of water and swirl around. I bet you see some pink then! LOL

Kim

Thanks I figured such. Do you think I bought enough liquid chlorine or should I buy more? Im trying to be prepared and have everything I need to open
 
I wouldn't buy any more chlorine right now. The strength will degrade over time. I still recommend going to a pool store or Culligans or something to test for metals.

I would also use the same service to test your current POOL water for metals once you open. Since you had that dreaded Pool Frog, (which I hope is now non-functional), that may have introduced additional metals too.
 
I wouldn't buy any more chlorine right now. The strength will degrade over time. I still recommend going to a pool store or Culligans or something to test for metals.

I would also use the same service to test your current POOL water for metals once you open. Since you had that dreaded Pool Frog, (which I hope is now non-functional), that may have introduced additional metals too.

i plan on getting the well water tested for metals asap. As for the pool frog I haven't opened it yet but I'm gonna empty it if there is anything in it. I'll also have the pool water tested for metals once I get the cover off and start opening it.
 

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I keep the Frog connected and use it when I go out of town. It mostly contains silver not copper so in occasional uses it should not stain your hair or pool.
 
I keep the Frog connected and use it when I go out of town. It mostly contains silver not copper so in occasional uses it should not stain your hair or pool.

Defgufman,

I think we have to be clear here that this is NOT an endorsed method of pool care by TFPC standards. While we all agree that you and I and others are free to add whatever we want to our pools, using metal sources of any kind are both unnecessary and possibly detrimental to pools.

Unless something has changed in the design, the Pool Frog (for pools) is a combination of silver and copper metals (for spas, they use silver and zinc). Even if the cartridge is mostly silver, the problem with this is the Frog is adding silver ions for no good reason and there is no way to know what concentration of metal ions are in the pool water or how much is being added. In a residential, low bather-load pool setting, chlorine is much more effective for killing algae and bacteria. Depending on the bacteria type, chlorine has CT kill times on the order of 1-2minutes while silver ions take as long as 10-20mins. Even when the two are considered in combination, there's no point in adding silver as pools don't generally have high bacteria loads and, very rarely, only have bacteria that chlorine has a hard time killing. Also, we do know for a fact that metal ions, at a high enough concentration, will precipitate out of pool water as stains. Silver stains, in particular, are exceedingly difficult to remove as they do not respond to any of the standard metal removal techniques, eg, ascorbic acid. Vinyl lined pools are less susceptible to metal stains but we only have very limited data with regard to silver stains and we know that both iron and copper can stain vinyl if the conditions are right.

My point in writing this post is not to attack your methods (you are free to care for your pool however you see fit) but to make sure that the OP knows that the use of metal-based disinfectants are not supported by the facts as we know them and TFP does not condone their use under any circumstance.
 
Defgufman,

I think we have to be clear here that this is NOT an endorsed method of pool care by TFPC standards. While we all agree that you and I and others are free to add whatever we want to our pools, using metal sources of any kind are both unnecessary and possibly detrimental to pools.

Unless something has changed in the design, the Pool Frog (for pools) is a combination of silver and copper metals (for spas, they use silver and zinc). Even if the cartridge is mostly silver, the problem with this is the Frog is adding silver ions for no good reason and there is no way to know what concentration of metal ions are in the pool water or how much is being added. In a residential, low bather-load pool setting, chlorine is much more effective for killing algae and bacteria. Depending on the bacteria type, chlorine has CT kill times on the order of 1-2minutes while silver ions take as long as 10-20mins. Even when the two are considered in combination, there's no point in adding silver as pools don't generally have high bacteria loads and, very rarely, only have bacteria that chlorine has a hard time killing. Also, we do know for a fact that metal ions, at a high enough concentration, will precipitate out of pool water as stains. Silver stains, in particular, are exceedingly difficult to remove as they do not respond to any of the standard metal removal techniques, eg, ascorbic acid. Vinyl lined pools are less susceptible to metal stains but we only have very limited data with regard to silver stains and we know that both iron and copper can stain vinyl if the conditions are right.

My point in writing this post is not to attack your methods (you are free to care for your pool however you see fit) but to make sure that the OP knows that the use of metal-based disinfectants are not supported by the facts as we know them and TFP does not condone their use under any circumstance.

This was actually very beneficial for me, thank you. I had no idea what the pool frog actually did. I thought it was to out chlorine tabs in. Should I just make sure it's empty or cut it out and replace with pipe?
 
My point in writing this post is not to attack your methods (you are free to care for your pool however you see fit) but to make sure that the OP knows that the use of metal-based disinfectants are not supported by the facts as we know them and TFP does not condone their use under any circumstance.
Under most circumstances, chemgeek said the silver sanitation system on my spa is legit :eek:

But yea, I'd remove the frog, or at least the minerals in the frog if possible. I busted open the Nature2 my PB installed and took out all the metal balls. Water just flows through it. It's doubly pointless when I have a SWG.
 
I'll have to take a better look at it next time I get a chance. Chances are I'll just cut it out. This may be a dumb question, but pvc pipe is installed on a pool the same way it's installed for home plumbing correct? With the purple primer and clear cement?
 
Under most circumstances, chemgeek said the silver sanitation system on my spa is legit :eek:

But yea, I'd remove the frog, or at least the minerals in the frog if possible. I busted open the Nature2 my PB installed and took out all the metal balls. Water just flows through it. It's doubly pointless when I have a SWG.

Sorry, I should have said "use in pools" is not condoned. Hot tubs are a bit different as bacterial loads can be MUCH higher and water in a spa is dumped very frequently.

Pools are a different beast.
 

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