Nathan Johnson

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Apr 13, 2025
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Alabama
Pool Size
20000
Surface
Plaster
Chlorine
Salt Water Generator
SWG Type
Pentair Intellichlor IC-40
If I wanted a preventative algacide, what might you recommend? There are pools I care for that have some degree of volatility where one would help. What do you use to treat an algal bloom? Mustard? Green? BLACK!? As stated I need to veer away from metal based products.
 
If I wanted a preventative algacide, what might you recommend? There are pools I care for that have some degree of volatility where one would help. What do you use to treat an algal bloom? Mustard? Green? BLACK!? As stated I need to veer away from metal based products.
There is no "preventative algaecide." There is proper chlorination. That is the ONLY way to avoid algae. Folow this...Link--> FC/CYA Levels
If you have an "algae bloom" the only treatment is the SLAM process. Link--->SLAM Process
If you have Mustard algae, you need to treat with SLAM, then, and only then, the mustard treatment...Link-->Mustard Algae
Black algae? Check this out...Link-->Some thoughts and questions on black algae control
Algaecide is not the solution to any of these problems...

I suggest you dip into the deep end of pool water chemistry:
 
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The 'cide' part of the name implies it kills algae, but it's preventative and cant overcome algae's exponential growth cycles.

Using it after algae happens is like closing the fence gate after the neighborhood dogs got in your yard. It's too late and locking them in there kinda makes it worse. Lol.

Polyquat 60 is non copper based. But. Algecide consumes FC, which then makes you need the algecide, which you have less of because the FC consumed the algecide. And. 🤦‍♂️
 
But. Algecide consumes FC, which then makes you need the algecide, which you have less of because the FC consumed the algecide. And. 🤦‍♂️

I read all the new content so I know what’s in these forums when I need them. Came here for knowledge and confirmation. Got poetry. Bravo @Newdude
 
I read all the new content so I know what’s in these forums when I need them. Came here for knowledge and confirmation. Got poetry. Bravo @Newdude
Or instead of a direct response get referrals to 3 other tutorials that might explain what you're looking for.
 
Or instead of a direct response
Ok how about this one then.

If algae can grow, so can the bacteria and ickies. If you hinder the algae growth it may be visually more pleasing but just as unsanitary.

The industry has shelves upon shelves devoted to stopping algae, when being sanitary does it all by iitself.

Your problem is the pool(s) you maintain are unsanitary, *not* that you need a better algecide.
 
Ive had some success with bromine salts and 'poly 60' but seems like it takes an awful lot of those to keep algae at bay.
You already know your answer.

If I wanted a preventative algacide, what might you recommend?

Chlorine in the proper FC/CYA ratio.

There are pools I care for that have some degree of volatility where one would help.

More chlorine at the high end of the FC/CYA ratio.

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What do you use to treat an algal bloom?

The SLAM Process which is too time consuming for Pool Services to do.

Mustard? Green? BLACK!?

They are variations on the SLAM Process and explained in ...


As stated I need to veer away from metal based products.

As you should.
Or instead of a direct response get referrals to 3 other tutorials that might explain what you're looking for.

Direct enough?
 
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At its very best, an algaecide is simply a little bit of insurance against algae running out of control once the FC/CYA ratio drops below the kill rate needed to keep algae at bay. All you’re doing is slowing down the trainwreck, not actually fixing the problem in the first place.

I get it, you’re a service guy and serviced pools can’t really use the TFP method because it requires too much intervention which means more time spent at a customer pool and less money in your wallet. In that case, algaecides are just another layer of chemicals that buys you a bit more time so you can leave a customer pool alone for 10 days or so without it turning into a swamp, or at least a visibly noticeable swamp. Copper kills algae but at the cost of causing stains. Quaternary ammonium algaecides will reduce the rate of growth of algae but at the cost of higher FC demand. Bromine based algaecides create a small reserve of active bromine that is good at killing algae but terrible for chlorine because of UV extinction and the resulting high FC demand. Ammonia based algaecides are so-so but causes a lot of chlorine demand. Mustard and black algae growth both require lots of treatment with chlorine and scrubbing to effectively get rid of them.

There are pros and cons for all of these but, at the end of the day, a pool owner that won’t take care of their own pool is basically farming out the job to someone who will never care for their pool as much as it needs. So the pool owner just has to expect problems and pay more for their fixes. As for the service guy, polyquat-60 is probably the least problematic of the bunch but it will cost more than metal based algaecides and be less effective.
 
Ok how about this one then.

If algae can grow, so can the bacteria and ickies. If you hinder the algae growth it may be visually more pleasing but just as unsanitary.

The industry has shelves upon shelves devoted to stopping algae, when being sanitary does it all by iitself.

Your problem is the pool(s) you maintain are unsanitary, *not* that you do

Do you use algacide? If so which one?
 
Do you use algacide? If so which one?
I do not. I have a SWG to add the proper daily FC for me. Running it a little on the hot side for my CYA allows me wiggle room when unexpected FC loss events happen such as a big storm or a particularly high UV loss day. It's not completely hands off, but its usually great with weekly confirmation its still on target
 
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