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Look, as a guy who rebuilds used spas I can tell you that if you see it hot and running and not leaking everywhere you're likely good. But go look at it, don't buy unseen.
There will be extras. Covers are usually in pretty bad shape, cabinets need refinishing or repair, pumps leak a little, etc. But to get something decent in your budget used is about your only option.
Caldera is made by watkins, who also make hot springs, and is a top tier manufacturer, but parts are expensive.
Thanks a lot. Anything else I should look for when going to see?
 
Something doesn't seem right about this
The average person isn't capable of fixing it and it's hard enough to fire sale a working hot tub. It took a year to get 1/4 MSRP for my 5 year old working tub.

Buyer beware of whatever he doesn't know is wrong, or what he isn't claiming is wrong, of course, but yeah.
 
So I may go look at this. They said they boarded brand new 2 years ago for $22,000. Said they could do 13 or 14K possibly. Anyone familiar with this model? Also, I'm assuming that the hot tub needs to be full of water and operational when I go and see it, correct? They said they have they have all the paperwork for when they bought it. So is this Sundance Cameo manufactured in different years so it could be a 2020 or 2022 but have the same name?

 
Ok. Hot springs uses 2 densities of spray foam, has non-removeable sides, and a complex plumbing system. He's gotten repair estimates that start with 4 figures and end with question marks. I would take this tub, but I wouldn't pay for it.
 
From what I'm revieing the tub is a very good. They showed me the paperwork of buying it 2 years ago from spa place.

I obviously need to see it filled and running, correct?lol. Anything else I should look for/check when I'm there? Thanks
 
I have an optima 880. The closest you could get with the seat opposite the lounger is putting you feet out and have the calf jets hit behind your knees. You could slide down to get the hammies.
 

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So a must is a lounger like this. Like this one because it has jets all along the body, some don't. It's just this spa is a little too big for my area and I only need one with a lounger and may 1-3 other seats. Anyone know of a good tub that meets this criteria?


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Have you been in one ? As said above, that specific lounger needs to be road tested. If you're tall you might not fit. If you're short you might float instead when you try to lay out. Everyone in between is 50/50 if they like it and half are upset they wasted valuable real estate.

So 25% of folks are happy yet 100% thought it was the best idea ever.
 
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I know Master Spas seem to have bad rap from some and are a bit inferior to Sundance and Hot Springs but I really like the jet layout of the lounge seat and mostly looking for therapeutic . Anyone know of this is a good price?

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Did you test it? A lot of people have issues with a lounge seat, the jets shoot them out of the longer. 🤣 People forget they become buoyant when in water and having 10 to 30 jets under you will be pushing you out of the lounger. What is a core fabric cover? Typically spas have a foam filled vinyl/PVC? cover, some are tapered 4 inches to 2 inches and some are tapered 6 inches to 4 inches. Biomagnet therapy? Ecopur mineral ... probably a mineral stick the "you don't need chlorine". Back in my first days of tub ownership there was Nature 2 and I think Bullfrog (not made by the spa company Bullfrog) or something like this. Stay away from these.

20 years ago Master was considered low end that charged a lot. Some dealers were excellent at taking care of their customers but Master did a lot of Spa shows and the dealers were getting screwed. Things may have changed over the years. I saw a few Master tubs back then that were very nice looking but the advice from people in the business on hot tub forums basically said stay away. I paid $6,200 for my spa back then so a spa 2x more in today's dollars could be a good value. I think a Sundance tub was like $2,500 more and Hot Springs was about $3,500. I don't know how much "better" brands are these days but there's more to owning a tub then therapy. Electricity is a major concern. Durability is another. Parts availabilty still another.

I'm not trying to sell you out of getting a spa but they are not all created equal.
 

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