New EVO 614i Robot Pool Cleaner Review

PA,

When I press the start/stop button, the power light instantly blinks once or twice and the robot starts. Other than that, there is no indication on the power supply that things are working.

I suggest that you push the start button once, while watching the power light. If the power light blinks, don't push it again and see if the robot starts. If you push the button twice, it shuts the robot off.

Thanks,

Jim R.
 
Thanks Jim I saw that when it would start the power light blinks 2x, but my problem was getting it to blink. what I did do this afternoon was to push the power cord tightly into the socket, it worked as soon as I pressed the button, so I will pay special attention to being sure the cord is well seated and report back in a few days. Thank you CT for the idea of checking that cord. I really need to download the app and use that but I do not feel like answering all the questions for the app.
 
I stopped by Leslie's today to ask about Evo service. The store manager never heard of Evo robots but confirmed they sell it. He also verified online that Polaris makes it and and he said they would provide warranty service even though I didn't buy it from them. He's never had an Evo in for repair. I wouldn't count on this to be Leslie's company policy but that's what happened at my local Leslie's. Marina also told me it's a Polaris so Leslie's would provide warranty service.

For me in NC there's an independent pool store about a 2 hour drive away that does warranty service for the Evo. I got their name from the Aqua Products website under service centers. I called them and confirmed they service Evo and have serviced them in the past.
Following up on my above post, I emailed Aqua Products support regarding the Leslie's service question and didn't get a reply. I then emailed Selina Dudley (Senior National Accounts Manager,Fluidra) and quickly received her reply: "Leslie's can and should provide service on these units but I've been hearing recently that they have not been entirely helpful due to being backlogged with warranty service tags already. You can find the nearest servicer at the website below"

So it's great news that a Fluidra representative confirmed that Leslie's and any Polaris dealer should provide warranty service for the Evo. Of course it's another story if they actually will but with my experience at my local Leslie's and now this confirmation from Fluidra I'm feeling better about obtaining local service if needed.
 
82,

I have the app, just because the robot came with it.. I don't really use it, as I only put the robot in the pool once of twice a week.

As part of my review, I did try the drive and lift functions.. They do work, but... I can pull my robot out of the pool before you can get your phone out of your pocket.. :mrgreen:

The latency is huge when trying to drive it around. And I just did not see any advantage to me to use the lift option.

I manually lift it out of the water when off. This does allow a very little water to go back into the pool, depending on how you do it. The lift option is done under power, so it does not allow as much dirty water to escape.

Honestly, you will just have to try and see how well it works for you.

I bought it to just clean my pool, not for any of the 'magic' options that it has.

And yes, without the app the only thing you can do is turn the robot on and off, and select floor only, or Floor and walls, options.

Thanks,

Jim R.
 
82,

I have the app, just because the robot came with it.. I don't really use it, as I only put the robot in the pool once of twice a week.

As part of my review, I did try the drive and lift functions.. They do work, but... I can pull my robot out of the pool before you can get your phone out of your pocket.. :mrgreen:

The latency is huge when trying to drive it around. And I just did not see any advantage to me to use the lift option.

I manually lift it out of the water when off. This does allow a very little water to go back into the pool, depending on how you do it. The lift option is done under power, so it does not allow as much dirty water to escape.

Honestly, you will just have to try and see how well it works for you.

I bought it to just clean my pool, not for any of the 'magic' options that it has.

And yes, without the app the only thing you can do is turn the robot on and off, and select floor only, or Floor and walls, options.

Thanks,

Jim R.
Thank you sir. I currently have to do this dance where I wait for my robot to come up to the waterline, pull it out the water and then holler at the wife to turn the power off. This was due to dirty water escaping when not under power, so we started this charade. Appreciate the feedback.
 
@Berger82

I have found that if I pull the robot up, and at the same time rotate it level with the coping, I get very little dirty water coming out. If I hold it with just the handle, and pull it all the way out, I get much more dirty water coming out.. The idea is to not let any water come out of the suction outlet on the top of the cover. This is of course with the robot off.

Not really sure how to explain it.. :(

Thanks,

Jim R.
 
@Berger82

I have found that if I pull the robot up, and at the same time rotate it level with the coping, I get very little dirty water coming out. If I hold it with just the handle, and pull it all the way out, I get much more dirty water coming out.. The idea is to not let any water come out of the suction outlet on the top of the cover. This is of course with the robot off.

Not really sure how to explain it.. :(

Thanks,

Jim R.
I also recently found a tray behind the white cover on the back that had a ton of small leaves and dirt in it. Likely cause I tossed it in immediately upon opening but there is a tray back there that is collecting stuff for me
 
CT,

Well "in theory" there should not be any debris in behind that white cover at the back of the robot.

It appears to me that water should come out of that area only when you pull the robot out of the pool. When running under water, there is a little float that is supposed to stop water from coming out of the white cover on the back. All the water should be coming out of the suction vent at the top of the unit.

When you pull it out of the water the float, no longer floats, and the door opens to allow all the water to drain out of the back as you lift it up. And "in theory' all the dirt should be trapped inside the filter basket. The filter area is sealed by a gasket at the top of the basket.

That said, we all know how theories often work... :mrgreen:

I get much less dirty water back into my pool with the EVO than I do with my Dolphin S200's..

Thanks,

Jim R.
 
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An update for those having issues with the unit staying in a small circle.

I drove two hours today, taking the cleaner to the shop the Fluidra contacts recommended, and they indicated they could not find any issues with the unit. I brought it back home, ran the diagnostic test, and had the three blinking lights again, and the unit continued to drive in circles. I'm pretty frustrated. The Pinch-A-Penny people were extremely nice, and even though they didn't voice it, I get their frustration on being tasked with fixing something they didn't sell...

Additionally, Marina Pools never responded to my email asking for additional support; buyer beware, as this is not what they assured me of when I purchased from them.
 
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Also. If anyone is on the fence with the EVOs, I just saw a hefty sale at Marina.

$779 and $849 respectively.
 
Are you associated with them given you are posting about their cleaner sales?
Zero association. I was on their website seeing if they we open tomorrow for you and saw the sale.

Sorry it's not going well for you.
 
Sorry, I hope I didn't come off as a jerk.

I'm just super frustrated after driving two hours in Dallas traffic to hopefully fix this. I read a ton of praise about them on this site, which is the reason I ordered, and they were super helpful in the ordering process. However, support hasn't mimicked the buying process. Nobody wants to be "that" customer; I just feel I should have gotten more than nine months of use out of it.

Sadly, the Evo is nearing trash territory as the time and energy to fix it is approaching diminishing returns.

Thx
 
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Sorry, I hope I didn't come off as a jerk
None taken. I'd call them again to say it didn't work out bringing it to local repair.

Maybe the restrictions come from Evo. My IRL buddy got a dud Dolphin from them and she sent him a new one the next day. It was pretty quick after the sale, I'm not sure how much the 9 months has to do with it, but either way it sucks. :(
 
@shawnrw

Most of the comments about Marina Sales and Service were based upon several years of experience with them selling and supporting Maytronics/Dolphin Robots... The EVO product sales is relatively new for them, and I think we all 'assumed' that everything, service wise, would be the same.

I'll see if I can get any feedback from them.. But, that said, I don't have an special powers, other than I have bought several robots from them over the years.

I sent you a PM..

Thanks,

Jim R.
 
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About a month ago I needed a new robot pool cleaner and I contacted Margaret at Marina Pool and Spa. My initial goal was to buy another S200 "style" robot as I have been happy with them so far.

Margaret suggested that I might want to look at a new line of robot cleaners that Marina is now carrying, the Aqua Products EVO. I was intrigued and so I opted for the EVO instead of the Dolphin robot. I have been using the EVO for about a month now and here are my initial thoughts...


The New Robot in Town

I recently had the opportunity to use an AQUA Products EVO 614i Robot Cleaner. It looks like they are under the Zodiac Pool system brand.

I have been a faithful Dolphin robot user from many years, but I thought I’d give the EVO a chance to show me what it’s got.


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On the surface it appears that both the EVO and the Dolphin S200 are about equally matched. In this initial review, I point out some of the notable differences. Not really a good and bad situation, just where I noticed different engineering.

1. Dual Drive motors. The EVO has a left and right drive motor. These drive motors can run forward or reverse. This means the EVO can spin on a dime, when the two motors are going in opposite directions. You notice this instantly when the robot makes its first turn.

2. Two Active Brushes. The EVO has Dual active brushes, while the Dolphin has one active brush.

3. Large Brushes with wear indicators. The EVO’s brushes are larger and appear to be much more robust than the ones that the Dolphin uses. Because there are two drive motors the brushes are split between the left and right sides. The brushes in the front are the same size as the brushes in the back. The Dolphin has a smaller brush in the back.

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4. Filter basket. The EVO’s filter basket is about half the size of the Dolphin basket. It has a one-piece screen-like filter vs. the Dolphin which has a 4-piece pleated filter. I initially thought this would be an issue, as I have always used the pleated Dolphin filters. But, after many cleaning cycles, I’m beginning to like the screen filter better. I think my dislike of the screen filters is because I used them on the Dolphin and they lasted about a month before they got holes in the them and became useless. As much as I like the Dolphin’s pleated filters, the EVO’s screen filter was much easier to clean. Although the Dolphin has a much larger basket, I am not sure it matters as I doubt the Dolphin can fill the basket due to its inlet design.

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5. Water Inlet Differences. The Dolphin sucks up debris into the center of their basket, through an open-ended cloth bag. The bag is to prevent the debris from leaking back into the pool when you pull the robot out of the water. It certainly helps contain the debris, but it does not stop everything. It has a negative side in that it can get clogged with large debris and then nothing can get sucked up into the basket. The EVO does it differently. It sucks up the debris through a tube and into the top of the robot and then drops the debris into the basket. When you pull the EVO out of the water, none of the debris go back into the pool.


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6. Filter Area Design. The EVO has an almost water-tight area with the suction motor and impeller along with the filter basket. Not sure if this a plus or not. It does make the EVO harder to sink as it acts almost like a boat. You lower it into the water with the rear brushes pointing down. Where you can just throw the Dolphin in the pool, and it just sinks on its own. Edit.. To be clear the EVO sinks on its own, it just take a little longer than the Dolphin.

7. The Power Cord. The cord on the EVO is much larger in diameter and stiffer than the Dolphin’s cord. I had great hopes this would mean that the cord would not tangle. I was wrong. I have not had it long enough to know what will happen as it gets broken in, but running the EVO several times in a row, without removing it from the pool, induced the same basic tangle that I have seen in all my Dolphin robots. Edit. If I run the robot, like I normally do, and clean it after every run, the cable does not tangle.


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8. The Swivel. The EVO has a much more robust looking swivel compared to the Dolphin. The EVO combines the cable float and the swivel in one device. Neither swivel seems to swivel enough to keep the cable from tangling.

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9. The Power Supply Connector. The only thing on the EVO that appears a little out of place and rather cheap is the connector on the power supply end of the cable. It just plugs into the Power Supply with two little snaps. Maybe I’m just used to military cannon plug style connectors, but I like the Dolphin’s connector better. The EVO’s connector does appear that it could be replaced easier, while the Dolphin is more molded in place and does not look to be easily replaceable. Not sure I have ever seen bad one.

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10. DIY Repair. I have some experience with the assembly and disassembly of the S200 style Dolphins and it is very easy. At first glance I don’t see how to disassemble the EVO or if repair parts are even available. Not something I plan to investigate until the EVO is out of warranty.

11. Water Line Cleaning. When cleaning the water line tile, the Dolphin moves sideway because a gate turns and causes water to shoot out of a vent on the sides of the plastic housing. This forces the robot to move along the tile line for about 2 or 3 feet at a time. The EVO does not have any directional vents, but does move along the tile line. It appears to me that the robot floats at a slight angle and while the brushes clean the tile line, they also cause the robot to move along the tile line.

12. The Power Supply. The EVO’s power supply allows you to select either floor only, or floors and walls/tile line. The cycle time is 1.5 hours for floor only and 2.5 hours for everything. Both the EVO and Dolphin power supplies are water resistance. The EVO’s power supply has a Power Light that is on anytime the power supply is plugged into AC power. You would assume when you pushed the Start/Stop button that it would light up, but it does not. The Power light flashes once when you push the Start button. I find that odd as it is hard to tell if the Robot is on or off. If you have the EVO 614i, then the Power supply has a Wi-Fi button. Edit.. It appears the idea is to use the app to start or stop the robot.. It works fine from the power supply once you understand the start stop button does not light up.

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13. Wi-Fi Control. The EVO 604 and 614i are the same basic robot, but the 614i has Wi- Fi control. Not that it actually controls much. I am not sure what the App is for other than when you sign up for the iAquaLink app you need to give them just about everything including location of any birth marks. Quite invasive for what you get. The plus side is that it came right on line and connected once I entered the 80 pages of personal info. The app lets you change the cleaning mode from floors to floors and walls, and lets you start or stop the robot, but it does not allow you to ‘drive’ the robot around. It appears the drive mode is an option for the more expensive models. The app displays a big spinning clock showing how much time is left in the cleaning cycle. I pushed stop and it stopped. I pushed start and it did not return to work, it just started over. It does give you some info on the robot itself, like how may total hours run, S/N, F/W installed and other such info. I don’t see the value in what the app does, but it came with the unit. Edit... I'm told that the app for the 614i will be updated in the next few weeks to include the ability to drive the robot and to make it drive itself to the surface at a wall so it is easy to remove from the pool. I guess time will tell if this happens or not.

14. Warranty... Both the EVO and the Dolphin have a Two-year warranty.

15. Unknow life expectancy. Dolphin 3 to 5 years. Edit. This is key in my mind, but we won't know how reliably the EVO is for several years...

16. Main Drain Hang Ups. So far, I have run the EVO for about 50 hours and it has never hung up on the main drain. The Dolphin would hang up on the main drain about 10% of the time. I believe that because of the dual drive motors, that the EVO will not have this issue, but time will tell.

17. I did not find anything that would keep me from buying this unit again. See #18

18. I assumed you could run the unit on weekly schedule, but I now realize that is not an option. For me that is not an issue as I normally only use the robot two or three times a week, but it will not work for a lot of pool owners. You’d think it would be an easy App fix. I also do not see where you can control it from an automated electrical outlet. Edit. The app is supposed to be update (automatically) but my understanding is that the timer option is not part of this update. This makes no sense to me, but we will see.

Thanks,

Jim R.
Any update? I may need to replace my S200 after 26 months only and don't want to give Maytronics my money. Only concern is this doesn't have the ultra-fine filter like my s200 which seemed to get the fine dirt and algae. How would you rate the cleaning of Evo since you've had more time with it?

Thanks,
Scott
 
Scott,

The EVO comes with the standard filter, but you can buy the ultra fine filter..

See posts starting at about # 296 or so..

I still love it, but we will just have to see how long it lasts..

If I had to buy another robot today, it would be another EVO.

Thanks,

Jim R.
 
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Scott,

The EVO comes with the standard filter, but you can buy the ultra fine filter..

See posts starting at about # 296 or so..

I still love it, but we will just have to see how long it lasts..

If I had to buy another robot today, it would be another EVO.

Thanks,

Jim R.
Thanks Jim, sorry, I only scrolled the first page and didn't notice all the updates (21 pages worth :)) Really appreciate the review and fast replies!

Scott
 

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