New to TFP, new to handling my own pool.

DingoBaby

New member
Jan 11, 2024
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Mission Viejo, CA
Pool Size
21000
Surface
Plaster
Chlorine
Liquid Chlorine
Hello community!

Wish I had've found this before I let Leslie's fill me full of poo :D

Luckily I can take back the irrelevant startup chemicals they sold me and picking up chlorine from Walmart later today.

I had a pool guy who for at least the last 2.5 years, and likely for many years before that, did absolutely nothing but toss 3 pucks in a floater and walk away.

Charged for "filter cleaning" and never opened the filter, would just do a quick backflush and dump some DE into the skimmer, and brushing was "distractedly, superficially hit the top 1.5' of wall under the water line" and walk away.

So when I tested just even my chlorine, it was up in 16-17 range. At Leslie's.. on their test, (which I'm questioning at this point) they tested my CYA up at 140 on my first test and then after 2 drain/fills of around 700cf per, it tested higher at 167.

I was told I needed to drain out and pressure wash to get rid of the CYA, so I drained it out and pressure washed it (yesterday), and I'm getting near the halfway point refilling. Pool is around 21000 gal (+ or - 500 @ 30'x15').

My pool has issues that need a bit of work - old heater was removed / pipes and gas capped likely because it ate the pipe, but I can't confirm that easily. Pool is likely from around 1973 and the surface is in hard shape but it doesn't leak.

Also have issues with the piping and valves which are inoperable or non existing other than the filter backflush valve, but these are all known and tolerable.

Have a fresh Taylor 2006C kit, grabbing a sample as soon as I can reach it and planning to dump in chlorine right after balancing the PH. Since CYA was excessively high and I have a small pile of pucks that I'm not sure if I should use to raise CYA or not (was thinking use them up to ~30).

One huge question is does a non salt water conditioner (allegedly crystalizes the calcium so scale doesn't stick) do anything detrimental to the pool chemistry as it relates to Calcium?

Side note, tired and incredibly cynical about "pool stores" and "pool guys" at this point.
 
Welcome to TFP!!! Sorry for a delayed response!

I was told I needed to drain out and pressure wash to get rid of the CYA, so I drained it out and pressure washed it (yesterday), and I'm getting near the halfway point refilling. Pool is around 21000 gal (+ or - 500 @ 30'x15').
You can lower CYA by simply replacing water, no need to pressure wash. You also really don't want to drain a pool. CYA also degrades over time, typically 5-10 per month.

Here is a good read. See the section on "No Drain Water Exchange"
Have a fresh Taylor 2006C kit, grabbing a sample as soon as I can reach it and planning to dump in chlorine right after balancing the PH. Since CYA was excessively high and I have a small pile of pucks that I'm not sure if I should use to raise CYA or not (was thinking use them up to ~30).
Great! Use and trust your test. Chlorine is always your first concern...you can always get to pH. "Chlorine is King." Remember to follow this link-->FC/CYA Levels

Post your results and we'll get you started on balancing. Great link for the basics-->Pool Care Basics

You can use pucks to raise CYA, but if it is below 30, best to use "Chlorine Stabilizer" which is a dry form of Cyanuric Acid to get it to 30. Then use your pucks over time to raise it more, or maintain CYA, as it degrades. "Conditioner" is the liquid form of CYA. We tend to recommend that you avoid it...it is more expensive, you need to use the entire gallon, and is tricky to get it all out of the bottle.
One huge question is does a non salt water conditioner (allegedly crystalizes the calcium so scale doesn't stick) do anything detrimental to the pool chemistry as it relates to Calcium?
I have no idea what a "non salt water conditioner" is...can you post the product? Conditioner is, as I said, the liquid form of CYA. Doesn't matter if you use it in a salt or chlorine pool.
Side note, tired and incredibly cynical about "pool stores" and "pool guys" at this point.
Got it.

Sincerely,
PoolStored.
 
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