Problems with FC again

I don't see any reason to run your pump that high. Theoretically, it can force contaminants back out into the pool. (cloudiness?)

Most folks with VS pumps run 24/7 around 30% (I think) and then ONLY run on high to prime when needed.

You will also save a LOT of electricity.
We have solar power so during the day works best for us. Overnight just uses grid electricity for little gain. So we run the pool for free. I found if I didn’t run in high for part of the day, the cloudiness returns. While slamming can I run it on lower speeds? I thought 100% was required.
 
I don't see any reason to run your pump that high. Theoretically, it can force contaminants back out into the pool. (cloudiness?)

Most folks with VS pumps run 24/7 around 30% (I think) and then ONLY run on high to prime when needed.

You will also save a LOT of electricity.
Interesting about forcing contaminants back out into the pool… I’ve never heard of this.
 
I don't see any reason to run your pump that high. Theoretically, it can force contaminants back out into the pool. (cloudiness?)

Most folks with VS pumps run 24/7 around 30% (I think) and then ONLY run on high to prime when needed.

You will also save a LOT of electricity.
I run it 4 hours a day @ 100% and the rest on low. Hayward literally told me to do that. 🤷🏻‍♀️
 
Most here find 24/7 on lower speed to be more effective. Your call.
But that’s what I did last year when I learned about that on this site. The water went cloudy. Twice. Since I’ve had it running the schedule I have - for a year now following my last slam - I’ve had zero issues. Maybe my pool just needs some time at higher circulation. Whatever, it has been amazing except for some flakes one afternoon, but I immediately fixed that by lowering TA from 80 to 60. But in terms of clarity and balance - it has been trouble free Until a couple of weeks ago when I put in the bag of Morton’s salt and it decimated the chlorine. Since then I’ve been struggling to re balance the FC. New salt cell two weeks ago could be the problem - but I don’t think so. I don’t think the pool recovered from whatever was in the bag that caused the FC to drop so drastically. And because it passed the OCLT that first night, I thought everything was ok. It obviously wasn’t and it’s become increasingly more difficult for me to get the SWG to maintain my FC level since. I don’t want to risk taking away the four hours on high because it’s been working. Hope that makes sense. I did try it, but had issues. Maybe it doesn’t work for every pool?
 
It’s clear again. I added the salt as well. Will start doing OCLT tonight and continue with the SLAM until it passes. Thank you all for your help.
 
But that’s what I did last year when I learned about that on this site. The water went cloudy
It may have coincidentally lined up with a high environmental debris time, like spring, fall, or whatever day they plowed the fields upwind.

Your filtering needs fluctuate over the season based upon what is falling/blowing in the pool.

I've found at 2 houses that 24/7 at 1200 to 1500 RPMs is plenty for the high debris times, and we like the look of the moving water in the times it's way more than I need. (Everyone's milage may vary, of course)
 
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It may have coincidentally lined up with a high environmental debris time, like spring, fall, or whatever day they plowed the fields upwind.

Your filtering needs fluctuate over the season based upon what is falling/blowing in the pool.

I've found at 2 houses that 24/7 at 1200 to 1500 RPMs is plenty for the high debris times, and we like the look of the moving water in the times it's way more than I need. (Everyone's milage may vary, of course)
I get it. But again - we are a solar powered house, so if possible I would prefer to power the pool with the sun during the day than with the grid at night. And it’s working: well it worked for a year… not so much right now. I’ll figure it out. It clear again, so I’ll continue with the slam. Hope it won’t be too long. I also like to run it on high for part of the day as it skims far better. I have the filter running for all the time we like for the pool to be moving water - starts at 5am and shuts off at 8 pm. All at 50% except for a few hours at 100% for skimming.
 
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so if possible I would prefer to power the pool with the sun during the day than with the grid at night
2 counter points :


1) low RPM is still likely plenty for daylight hours, at least for most of the season. To be adjusted of course when it needs it.

2) if you *had* to, 8 hours of 120W operation at night would cost about $7 a month. To me it's worth it to have (most) anything that falls in the pool find its way to the skimmer no matter the time. 8 to 12 hours is a long time for things to get waterlogged and sink. Of course, if the wind is blowing the wrong direction its a moot point, but also, the moment it dies down the skimmers get back to work.

In the end, you can choose to run 1 hour or 24 and we'll high five you. Our job is to help you understand it better to make a more educated decision. :)
 

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2 counter points :


1) low RPM is still likely plenty for daylight hours, at least for most of the season. To be adjusted of course when it needs it.

2) if you *had* to, 8 hours of 120W operation at night would cost about $7 a month. To me it's worth it to have (most) anything that falls in the pool find its way to the skimmer no matter the time. 8 to 12 hours is a long time for things to get waterlogged and sink. Of course, if the wind is blowing the wrong direction its a moot point, but also, the moment it dies down the skimmers get back to work.

In the end, you can choose to run 1 hour or 24 and we'll high five you. Our job is to help you understand it better to make a more educated decision. :)
i don’t know - nothing falls in the pool because of the cage. Do you really think not running overnight is the reason it got cloudy? I have followed TFP to the letter - except in this regard because it didn’t seem to work for me.
 
i don’t know - nothing falls in the pool because of the cage. Do you really think not running overnight is the reason it got cloudy? I have followed TFP to the letter - except in this regard because it didn’t seem to work for me.
Well tiny surface stuff falls in of course LOl
 
nothing falls in the pool because of the cage.
I missed that part. Apologies. You have next to no need for skimming. Your filtering need is mostly the same as pollen dust and whatnot goes right through the screen.
Do you really think not running overnight is the reason it got cloudy?
No. Suggesting It was just another option at your disposal.

I think whatever happened when you tried it coincided with something else and led you to believe you had to run at high speeds. Again, the filtering needs change over the season so even if you do need it at times like in the spring, it's not all the time.

That said, if your way works, and it's free...... (y)

I filter too much also for most of the season, just in a different way with low and slow.

Did anything appear off about the salt ? We've seen some reports of a bad batch that we're more sand/dirt like than salt like. I just used Mortons the other day and made sure to stir up the bag first and make sure it looked salt-y.

Also, maybe it's time to raise the CYA and the salt is a smokescreen.
 
I missed that part. Apologies. You have next to no need for skimming. Your filtering need is mostly the same as pollen dust and whatnot goes right through the screen.

No. Suggesting It was just another option at your disposal.

I think whatever happened when you tried it coincided with something else and led you to believe you had to run at high speeds. Again, the filtering needs change over the season so even if you do need it at times like in the spring, it's not all the time.

That said, if your way works, and it's free...... (y)

I filter too much also for most of the season, just in a different way with low and slow.

Did anything appear off about the salt ? We've seen some reports of a bad batch that we're more sand/dirt like than salt like. I just used Mortons the other day and made sure to stir up the bag first and make sure it looked salt-y.

Also, maybe it's time to raise the CYA and the salt is a smokescreen.
I keep the cya at 70. It drops to 60 when it rains loads, which it did this week, and because I suspected I was gonna have to SLAM as swg wasn’t doing as it should, I didn’t add conditioner. The salt looked fine. I don’t use much of it, but it just looked like salt. It literally is the only thing I can think of as nothing else changed that day. I put a bag in today, FC dropped from 24 to 20, and now I have .5 of combined chlorine - maybe this batch I’ve got is faulty. I have a few bags left - I may have to ditch them. Anyway I won’t need to add it again for ages - I’ll get rid of the few I have left, and buy a new bag next time I need to add it. I run my FC hot - lesson learned from last time I needed to slam. I’m assuming that night it dropped, contamination set in and I’ve been fighting it off ever since. Just don’t understand why I keep getting 0 CC if the water is cloudy. Anyway it’s not cloudy now - Fc is still dropping but I’ll continue with the slam until it’s all fixed. Appreciate all you guys a lot!!!!!
 
I keep the cya at 70. It drops to 60 when it rains loads, which it did this week, and because I suspected I was gonna have to SLAM as swg wasn’t doing as it should, I didn’t add conditioner. The salt looked fine. I don’t use much of it, but it just looked like salt. It literally is the only thing I can think of as nothing else changed that day. I put a bag in today, FC dropped from 24 to 20, and now I have .5 of combined chlorine - maybe this batch I’ve got is faulty. I have a few bags left - I may have to ditch them. Anyway I won’t need to add it again for ages - I’ll get rid of the few I have left, and buy a new bag next time I need to add it. I run my FC hot - lesson learned from last time I needed to slam. I’m assuming that night it dropped, contamination set in and I’ve been fighting it off ever since. Just don’t understand why I keep getting 0 CC if the water is cloudy. Anyway it’s not cloudy now - Fc is still dropping but I’ll continue with the slam until it’s all fixed. Appreciate all you guys a lot!!!!!
Water only got cloudy today BTW. OCLT showed there was an issue last night anyway so I knew I needed to slam before I even looked at the water 😀
 
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I keep the cya at 70. It drops to 60 when it rains loads, which it did this week, and because I suspected I was gonna have to SLAM as swg wasn’t doing as it should, I didn’t add conditioner.
Ahhhhh ok. And good call. (y)

I run my FC hot - lesson learned from last time I needed to slam.
Another good call. I was happy to see all the 8+s in your history. What happened with the couple of 3s ? That's a big swing.
Just don’t understand why I keep getting 0 CC if the water is cloudy.
CCs may or may not show. You can kill the algae fairly quickly if the bloom isn't a runaway freight train, but filtering takes much longer. The water will still be hazy but the CCs burned off a while ago.
 
Ahhhhh ok. And good call. (y)


Another good call. I was happy to see all the 8+s in your history. What happened with the couple of 3s ? That's a big swing.

CCs may or may not show. You can kill the algae fairly quickly if the bloom isn't a runaway freight train, but filtering takes much longer. The water will still be hazy but the CCs burned off a while ago.
That’s when I started to realize I had a bigger problem than just one drop following the salt. Upped it with liquid chlorine, hoping that it wouldn’t happen again, but it did. I usually keep it around 7-8 but over the past two weeks that was becoming impossible. I knew I had to SLAm but was hoping against hope it would resolve itself 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️ I haven’t been able to keep it right since adding the salt. I keep a close eye on the pool - I really enjoy doing it. I just don’t enjoy slamming…

Quick question - its still dropping fast if you look at my test results today. 2-4 ppm every couple of hours. Especially since adding the bag of salt earlier. Do I turn the SWG back on overnight? I have it off right now.
 
That’s when I started to realize I had a bigger problem than just one drop following the salt. Upped it with liquid chlorine, hoping that it wouldn’t happen again, but it did. I usually keep it around 7-8 but over the past two weeks that was becoming impossible. I knew I had to SLAm but was hoping against hope it would resolve itself 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️ I haven’t been able to keep it right since adding the salt. I keep a close eye on the pool - I really enjoy doing it. I just don’t enjoy slamming…

Quick question - its still dropping fast if you look at my test results today. 2-4 ppm every couple of hours. Especially since adding the bag of salt earlier. Do I turn the SWG back on overnight? I have it off right now.
The water is Crystal clear. No sign of algae (well there wasn’t any to begin with) but no cloudiness either.
 
The water is Crystal clear. No sign of algae (well there wasn’t any to begin with) but no cloudiness either.
And not for nothing - I still struggle to control my SWG. Too much. Too little. But Fc gets checked every morning so I’m able to adjust quickly. Wish I knew how to better use my SWG for consistency.
 

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