Opening my pool and want to do it real nice this time

[Newdude]

How does that sound?

It sounds good.

Seeing how you're going to be so close to SLAM, you might as well go all the way. It's a little over a half gallon difference and totally worth the peace of mind. If you come home and it's still 20, you won't have to add any for a few days.

 

[monsterman]

It sounds good.

Seeing how you're going to be so close to SLAM, you might as well go all the way. It's a little over a half gallon difference and totally worth the peace of mind. If you come home and it's still 20, you won't have to add any for a few days.

gotcha-- sound good- I appreciate your professorship teaching. and being that I now saved over $4.00 per gallon at Walmart- not a bad idea. Thank you again

 

[monsterman]

Big party today. Dont get mad at me bu i used 1 oz of clariifier then vacuumed to waster brushed the walls and robot vacuumed. Take a look. All numbers good. Fc us 11 this morning after putting in 42 oz last night. What should i look out for after today since about 6 people will
Be in the pool all day. What numbers should i pay attention to after the party??

 

[Mdragger88]

Big party today. Dont get mad at me bu i used 1 oz of clariifier then vacuumed to waster brushed the walls and robot vacuumed. Take a look. All numbers good. Fc us 11 this morning after putting in 42 oz last night. What should i look out for after today since about 6 people will
Be in the pool all day. What numbers should i pay attention to after the party??

Why clarifier that can gum up your sand? I thought it was looking crystal clear anyway- No need.
You can always just use a little de instead, it won’t hurt your sand and it will come out the next time you backwash.

Add DE to a Sand Filter

A clean pool filter will increase the efficiency of your pool! ... your filter are to backwash it, clean the manifolds and grids, and add new DE.

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You can go a scootch above 11 now (to maybe 15) to give you a good buffer & ensure you have plenty of fc to oxidize all the bather waste then check again after the party is over & replenish if needed.

 

[RLP]

Question- If the patient walked in with a prescription from their doctor, and it read 15 mg of drug a, would you take it upon yourself to substitute it with 30 mg of drug b?

 

[monsterman]

I know but I do not overdo the clarifier and I wanted it to look good for the party- it will really looks blue and clear- and I do NOT overdo it as I said- and I hope it does not gum up the filter- because I vacuum it OUT to waste after.

 

[Newdude]

and I wanted it to look good for the party-

I wanted mine to look good for my blowout party also, so I shot for SLAM (28FC) and fell a bit short but it was plenty close enough. It took over a week to drift down but in that time, any residuals were long neutralized. I was expecting 25 swimmers that day so I felt SLAM was sound insurance.

Today expecting a handful of swimmers I bumped it about 3 ppm.

 

[monsterman]

Yes, the weather was not so great-- had about 11 people- but the only people who went in were my son and my grandson. We had a nice day and I hope you all did as well. Time flies- holidays and life comes and goes so fast. My pool looks really nice and after the long cleanup, I added 60 oz of bleach. Will keep monitoring and see how things look. Hopefully, the only thing I will need to add is bleach from now till the end of the season. I have not brushed or swept or vacuumed the pool this much in years. I am a man obsessed. The only thing I need to worry about is when we go away and I cover the pool after loading it up to near Slam level or just about Slam level. My nerves will show when I remove the cover and look at the water below. Scary thought- but it is what it is and I will deal with it when that comes my way(with your help of course-LOL).

By the way- you said you almost did a Slam for your pool with all your swimmers-- and it took a week for the fc to go down- and
in that time any residuals were long neutralized?--- can you explain what that means to me? Not sure what any residuals mean?

 

[Newdude]

We had a nice day and I hope you all did as well

We had a GREAT day, thanks.

can you explain what that means to me? Not sure what any residuals mean?

People and their bathing suits, which you otherwise think are clean, are actually gross. Sweat, body oils, exfoliated skin, residual shampoo/conditioner / laundry detergent / fabric softener and several other things come off of us and our clean clothes.

Some of the oily things take a day or so to be neutralized versus bacteria for example which is neutralized on contact with the chlorone. This is why you want to raise the FC after a party, to ensure you have enough FC to cover whatever is still sticking around. With 25 swimmers going all day at my party, I was expecting ALOT of residuals sticking around. Whether it took 12 hours or 2 days, the FC was plenty high enough to cover it as it slowly drifted down.

 

[Newdude]

Hopefully, the only thing I will need to add is bleach from now till the end of the season.

That's all I've added since opening, except I lowered the PH before the party.

The only thing I need to worry about is when we go away and I cover the pool after loading it up to near Slam level or just about Slam level. My nerves will show when I remove the cover and look at the water below. Scary thought- but it is what it is and I will deal with it when that comes my way(with your help of course-LOL).

At worst, it's a little cloudy and we can fix it. Heck. Even if it's a swamp, we'd have one or two worse that day alone.

The plan is well thought out and you are set up with your best chance for success. If it still wasn't enough, we got you there too. Clearing pools is just another day at the office for the fine folks at TFP.

 

[monsterman]

I appreciate what you do for me and my family. Wow- 25 swimmers- you must have a huge family. I do also- my wife has 3 sisters and they all have kids and some of them already have their own kinds. When the WHOLE fam gets together for like Mother's Day or Father's Day- anyone can expect about 35-40 people total- almost unmanageable..And we had that for Father's Day and I only have a small cape cod-style house- and if it would have rained on that day- we would have been elbow to elbow in my small home. Thank goodness the weather was great on Father's Day and we were all able to stay outside. So today for a crowd of 13- it was like cake compared to the Father's Day crowd(LOL)-- By the way- what was your ph that you lowered it to and what did you use to lower it.?
I must say- I think by the comparator block- my ph looked about 8.0 or maybe a tad higher- not really sure until I get the meter. But as you said before- my small vinyl pool is pretty forgiving and the difference between those numbers does not really affect my pool or the swimmers that much- thank goodness.

 

[Newdude]

By the way- what was your ph that you lowered it to and what did you use to lower it.?

My PH was 8, which normally doesn't bother anyone and I let it be. But I figured for once, it wouldn't hurt to lower it. I used Muriatic Acid.

Ace Hardware had full strength for $9.99 and Home Depot / Lowes had half strength for $11.99.

So today for a crowd of 13- it was like cake compared to the Father's Day crowd.

Me too . Last time was a once in a lifetime event party. Yesterday we swore we were doing nothing, still reeling from the blow out party, and told a couple friends they were welcome to come 'do nothing' with us in the backyard.

 

[monsterman]

Hi again. My mind is working overtime as i sit here and eat my dinner. My fc is as always around 10 to 11 and i raise it every night to about 14 target with pool math by adding about 42 ounces of bleach. Now my question is i seem to b doing this every night at dusk to keep my fc at that target value. It is almost like a daily chore. Remember i add the bleach then brush the floors and walk around the pool mixing it up better with my skimmer attachment. But is there anything u can recommend that would enable me to not do this on a daily basis? I know i can raise the fc higher than 14 but if i did it to lets say 17 or 20 I would really still b using the same amount of bleach but just more in one shot and then letting it run down for like 3 days and starting again. I was hoping to not do it daily and not having to add larger amounts by doing it that way. But i guess there really is no middle ground? Confused and overworked?

 

[RLP]

salt water chlorine generator

 

[Newdude]

I would really still b using the same amount of bleach but just more in one shot and then letting it run down for like 3 days and starting again.

Try double dosing, now that you're getting in tune with the pool and knowing how it responds. (I told you it didnt take long. ). You may have to add a little extra to make it to the second day in the clear. If it works well, you just halved your efforts. Adjust the every other day dose as necessary.

Option 2 is to just go dose today like yesterday, and test it tomorrow. It literally takes 2 mins to waltz out back and dump a half gallon in. Again, I'd go with a little more for some safety net on the no test day.

There is no way around the fact that your pool will consume XXX FC over the summer. You aren't cutting the dose down without getting a swamp. So, alter the dose intervals instead to give yourself a bit of a break.

Confused and overworked?

It *IS* working though. Rather well, I might add.

 

[monsterman]

Should i try a cal hypo tablet while home and see how long the tablets last in the floating device. Like 2 tablets. And see how it maintains my fc without adding the bleach. Or maybe lets say once per month add a bag of that powershock which is also just cal hypo 68% and see how long that keeps my fc at a target value instead of adding the daily chlorine?? I will not overdo this but i need to learn how these items work to maintain a fairly even target fc and how long they do it for so I understand my options. I would definitely not overdo this because i now know that calcium also does not leave the pool and the only way to reverse this is to drain and i do not want to do that again. So i would monitor this and maybe use this cal hypo powder 68% maybe once every 2 weeks or less? In place of the liquid chlorine and see what it does for my fc. Any ideas to make life easier?

 

[monsterman]

Try double dosing, now that you're getting in tune with the pool and knowing how it responds. (I told you it didnt take long. ). You may have to add a little extra to make it to the second day in the clear. If it works well, you just halved your efforts. Adjust the every other day dose as necessary.

Option 2 is to just go dose today like yesterday, and test it tomorrow. It literally takes 2 mins to waltz out back and dump a half gallon in. Again, I'd go with a little more for some safety net on the no test day.

There is no way around the fact that your pool will consume XXX FC over the summer. You aren't cutting the dose down without getting a swamp. So, alter the dose intervals instead to give yourself a bit of a break.

It *IS* working though. Rather well, I might add.

I surely understand so i guess i am correct in stating that if i am to skip one day i have to double the dose to lessen my workload. Like i thought there is no other way. Like the old motto. Darn if u do and Darn if u dont

 

[monsterman]

salt water chlorine generator

Not going that route. I understand it is less work but not converting for the lazy lifestyle

 

[monsterman]

Try double dosing, now that you're getting in tune with the pool and knowing how it responds. (I told you it didnt take long. ). You may have to add a little extra to make it to the second day in the clear. If it works well, you just halved your efforts. Adjust the every other day dose as necessary.

Option 2 is to just go dose today like yesterday, and test it tomorrow. It literally takes 2 mins to waltz out back and dump a half gallon in. Again, I'd go with a little more for some safety net on the no test day.

There is no way around the fact that your pool will consume XXX FC over the summer. You aren't cutting the dose down without getting a swamp. So, alter the dose intervals instead to give yourself a bit of a break.

It *IS* working though. Rather well, I might add

i have also been monitoring my PSI. And it is always a religiously stable 15 so that makes me rest easy

 

[Mdragger88]

Should i try a cal hypo tablet while home and see how long the tablets last in the floating device. Like 2 tablets. And see how it maintains my fc without adding the bleach. Or maybe lets say once per month add a bag of that powershock which is also just cal hypo 68% and see how long that keeps my fc at a target value instead of adding the daily chlorine?? I will not overdo this but i need to learn how these items work to maintain a fairly even target fc and how long they do it for so I understand my options. I would definitely not overdo this because i now know that calcium also does not leave the pool and the only way to reverse this is to drain and i do not want to do that again. So i would monitor this and maybe use this cal hypo powder 68% maybe once every 2 weeks or less? In place of the liquid chlorine and see what it does for my fc. Any ideas to make life easier?

The tablets are slow dissolving so they would help maintain slowly over time (how quickly is the question)
- dumping in the powdered cal hypo is just raising the fc all at once - you can do this with liquid chlorine too (for less $$ per ppm of fc & without also adding calcium to your water)
there is literally no difference in how long it will last as opposed to liquid chlorine- adding fc is adding fc if they are used in equal amounts